Open queue balance is quite possibly the worst its ever been ever with the release of OW2 beta thanks to balancing specifically for 1-2-2.
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They should just put in a 1Tank/2Support limit, without Role Queue.
Then have No Limits in the arcade for people who want wacky nonsense.
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I dont think supports need to be limited, just tanks. I dont think 3+ supports would be an issue, and would be worse than having a 2nd dps.
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1 buffed tank, 3 Supports, and a Mei would still probably be too much defense stacking.
Unless they do something like cut the Healing output on all the Supports 1/3rd, if there’s 3 of them.
And even then, something like
Rein, Lucio, Brig, Moira, Mei
Would still be really “GOATs’ish”.
Then of course you got issues with really strong support ability stacking like sleep dart, antiheal, and immofield.
Or have Lucio, Brig, Zen and just cycle through defensive ults.
Role Q was a poor prescription even before OW2
A system (semi-)forcing people to play the least favorable role just to play the one you like with faster Q time while defeating what makes the game special…
Well at least people are getting quality games right?
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Yep. And I’m thankful for it.
Title says it all. Just go play open queue if it’s apparently so much better. It’s not like you guys don’t have the option.
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Expect RQ de facto made OQ worse by creating the mentality of “this is not THE official mode”.
I will accept the existence of RQ, just don’t mind me (unintentionally) ruining other’s gameplay experience while playing tank
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The whole idea behind a comp ladder is that eventually you’ll find your level as long as you’re trying. It’s not “ruining games” as long as you’re giving honest effort.
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Absolutely not.
As one of the last existing main tank mains here, I want a place where I can competitively play with the tank duos I have established over the years.
Role Queue exists for DPS. Stick to it.
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Open q is for people who like open q, people who like role q or any limitations should not be told to play it at all.
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There isn’t going to be anything competitive about which team picks more tanks and less dps wins.
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Yup. Idk why they even bother to add it as an option.
How is that going to change anything?
In the best case scenario 2 people insta lock dps and the rest quit the match.
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probably just 1 tank limit the rest open. 
still tho poster is right since the balance of 1-2-2 with one buffed up position would never work in open queue format
OQ shouldn’t be the official mode though.
It’s still there for the few who want it though so no worries
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… And? I don’t see the issue with that.
No GOATs and No Queue Times.
Role Limits just sets a “maximum per team”. And likely for lower ELO games you’ll get either 1-3-1 or 0-4-1.
And tons of leavers or nobody playing the mode if they can’t pick dps.
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I think you’re not getting it
No role queue, yes role limits, no restrictions on switching roles mid match.
1 Tank maximum per team
2 Supports maximum per team
5 DPS maximum per team
5 dps it is then.
If the ELO is low enough, yes.
But even then somebody is gonna grudgingly switch to one of the more DPS focused healers.