Juno cant 1v1 anyone but juno

She feels very fun to play dont get me wrong, the speed boost is hilarious with rams ult, but i find shes hard to secure a kill unlike with like a bap or an Ana.

Her ult is also quite poor, perhaps her ult should become an orbital bombardment that moves.

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Have you noticed her design is the opposite of Bap and Anas? They have relatively high damage, but poor (or in Ana’s case nonexistent) mobility.

Juno was designed to have exceptional mobility, and low damage. She’s not a character you’re gonna be 1v1ning people with because that’s not what she’s made for.

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Doesn’t mean she shouldn’t be able to defend herself. Having to nonstop run away from dive tank and DPS, she gonna need either crit damage or flat out number increases to prevent it.

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And Venture. Venture struggles super hard against the glide.

In her case, I’d argue it does since she can either leave or run circles around the person attacking her.

Why? She can run away and still shoot or lock on to teammates to heal them? She’s not put out of her way when she moves, and at worse, she can run to a teammate for help. Is there any reasons to buff her damage beyond “I want to pew pew my enemies”?

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She can’t exactly run circles around dive heroes though, her mobility isn’t good compared to theirs

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Riveting gameplay. Someone looked at you and you gotta hide or run. So fun and engaging.

That people don’t understand to stay in LoS and run away as soon as I pop it.

You’re acting like anyone helps supports. Peeling died with OW1.

There is, she cannot defend herself, how hard is that to understand?

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I doubt a support that can neither heal themselves nor defend themselves lasts in that state long.

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Right, you just want to fight and shoot things. Have you tried playing any of the other Overwatch characters?

Even DPS with strong weapons struggle against Dive heroes due to inherent mechanics. Their odds are better, but you still see Genjis and Tracers flanking them. Buffing Junos damage could just make her annoying since she’ll fly circles around most characters AND quickly kill them.

People can’t even take Moira’s low damage, but nah, I’m sure Juno’s much higher damage and mobility + speed will be fine for this community. I assume she will get some kind of buff soon, and that’s when the complaints will start to roll in.

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There’s nothing wrong with running away from better duelist heroes. If I can make a Winston chase me for 10 seconds and I still escape (thanks to my TWO speed boost abilities), then the enemies effectively have no tank for 10 seconds. A fair trade imo.

Idk where we get this idea that disengaging is unhealthy for the game. If you can’t win the fight, you SHOULD run. There’s nothing wrong with that

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I flex all the time, I play a multitude of heroes. Have you tried not being stubbornly blind to anything other than what you feel is correct?

So everyone. Got it.

If a Winston does that, he’s just bad. Plain and simple. Winstons in my rank aren’t going to chase a support for 10 seconds leaving his team to face everything without a tank.

She is underpowered and needs something for survivability. You shouldn’t have to disengage just because someone LOOKED at you.

We don’t need another Mercy level balance disaster, and that’s what this is going to be without changes to her damage out put.

Makes for amazing gameplay loops of “Welp, they saw me, better hide for the next 10 seconds, because I fire nerf darts.”

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this just in folks!, supports aren’t supposed to be dps, more news at 11!

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She does seem very disadvantaged in a duel. In the death match free for all waiting in que I shared her apart with Bap. Her glide is a super easy movement to track, her head hitbox seems extra easy to hit, and Baps Regen burst negates her burst completely.

To be fair, people aren’t used to her yet so it might change with time and such.

I’m supposed to defend my opinion, am I not? You guys always seem to want total submission on this forum, but I personally feel like a support with low damage is a neat addition to this game. Especially when the dpsification of the game seemed to hurt it in the long run.

Overwatch needs to have more unique characters, I’m talking about characters that FEEL entirely different from the other guys. Buff Juno’s damage too much, and she turns into a girl with a pistol and not Juno!

For the record, its clear I understand and respect your opinion. That’s why we’re debating it. But “understand and respect” isn’t the same thing as “I submit! I see the error of my ways!”. I know you didn’t explicitly ask for me to respond like that, but that’s the vibe I get when I express my opinion on here.

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Ok? I don’t think that’s really a problem for a healer.

Why are people advocating for the support to have a damage ult?
Why don’t you just select the damage role

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It’s not an opinion when it’s objectively wrong. It stops being an opinion when you ignore reality.

Someone missed nap time, no one is out for submission, but you’ve told by MULTIPLE people the SAME thing, that she cannot defend herself at all. Running away when you’re spotted is not going to make her more fun to play, only less people will play her.

It doesn’t, that’s just a DPS cry baby sentiment. “Our role is obsolete!” No, it’s not, you’re just mad you can’t win every 1v1 against supports. Only issue now is we have a support who cannot do anything but die when someone decides to attack her. Running away doesn’t help against dive DPS and tank(s).

I don’t know about you, but having characters that just die in duels when trying to do their job, isn’t “feeling different” it’s just bad.

“Hero identity” is nothing anymore. Look at Hanzo, Junkrat, etc. Nerfed far away from their original identities.

That’s a personal problem, and to be completely blunt, you should stop making bad takes, then.

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Petty insults aside, you’re displaying extreme arrogance and childishness by just saying “your opinion of Juno is objectively wrong and not an opinion because I don’t like it”. If i knew you were going to be a kid about this, I would have never engaged with you.

Unironically going “You are objectively wrong” in any conversation about opinions is laugable. You’d have to show me Juno failing to escape 10/10 times and that’s not reality. But you don’t care about reality, you just want to shoot things.

Well, have I got a character for you! His name is Cassidy (these days), and he has a pistol with high damage! So there’s your pistol character; I hope you enjoy. :slight_smile:

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Sigh, this is why you have the issue with the forums you do. Stop putting words in people’s mouths and gas lighting them.

Are you okay? I disagreed with you, not smack your Mom, calm down.

Yes, because me being a tank main is me wanting to pew pew things. Maybe get your roles right.

You really need to go outside or something, disagreements on a forum shouldn’t make you this upset.

See. The community shouldn’t be listened to because this take was trash.

She has high mobility. Why give her high damage on top of that? You want another two tap Kiriko situation? Where everyone cries and complain about Kiriko? You want another that, huh? No you don’t. Blizzard knows what you want, and they know you’ll accept her as she is because you’re nothing but a brainless prawn in an endless sea full of bigger fishes

Don’t ever cook again. She’s fine as she is. Go back to playing spam:76

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Terrible decision especially when you have high DMG and high mobility supports destroying backlines already.

Not fair that certain heroes can do that but Juno can’t even crit.