Junkrat's primary fire nerf destroyed his unique role without raising his skill ceiling

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how would they rework it without totally changing the point of the hero tho?

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No where did I say junk auto plays or that he can’t be countered. He is just mindless luck spam in a skill based game. He shouldn’t exit in the game or at least not do the insane amount of damage he does.

I really don’t get why the community defends this mindless game play. Brig that has to be point blank gets such rediculous hate. The guy that can do insane damage from random blind spam is just fine. An ult that is drive able and can go over terrain most chars can’t and nearly 1 shot any tank is perfectly ok though.

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I mean your right (Symmetra)

Perhaps they could put him more into traps and change his primary to.
A. Bounce only twice
B. Have less of arch

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Cause nothing about him isn’t able to be dealt with? If he was random, he’ll also be having crits as well but nothing in his toolkit cannot be deal with. He only get’s away with spam if the enemy allows him too.

Cause if you want more higher skill, lower his damage, make him able to headshot and make him a hitscan then.

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I. Did. Not. Say. He. Can’t. Be. Countered.

So annoying. Brig can be countered but I don’t read many threads about that.

I’m all for turning him into a more skill required char. That’s how he use to be till blizzard removed the self damage from ONLY him. All other aoe hurts the shooter.

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Oh please, he was utter garbage with self-damage and his toolkit didn’t helped at all.

It didn’t take skill, it was a masochist to play junkrat with self-damage.

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Even after that buff he was still F-Tier bud.

Oh and they removed it from only him because he’s the only hero who was made unplayable in what is suppose to be his best range.

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Wow, with their attitude against Rat I kind of expected wazam to be a silver/bronze player who mains a hero Junk counters.

Surprisingly they are a gold Moira 1 trick. Aka a hero that can easily do well against rat.

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It’s already 12 m/s actually.

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TBF, that often means a priority target as support.

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I don’t 1 trick Moira. I’m just not a fanboy that thinks blizzard can’t screw up design and have no problems mentioning it. Junks design for an fps is literally geared for the low skilled player. It makes it worse with highly skilled players. Most teams that are getting wrecked swap to a junk to spam non stop luck damage. 2 lucky random bounces kill most players. Watching kill cam shows that 3/4 of the time junk can’t even see where he is shooting. The game forces players to hold certain closed in spots, so why design a char to do point blank no skill high damage spam. Most open maps he’s not that great but how may open maps are there? 1 and that’s only for part of it.

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I rarley go for tires on Morias.
Being that in diamond where the Moiras are actually good they always fade right before I detonate. :frowning:

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I can see why you’re gold.

And yes, you are, in the long run, a 1 trick.

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It’s almost like blizz is trying to give variety instead of being generic FPS.

Even quake gives people explosives weapons, and they’re aren’t complaining about it.

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If this complaint was about Brig or Doomfist, the responses would be completely different yet your excuses can be applied to them. You can counter them.

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What?

You can counter Junkrat even easier than those 2.
I mean ofyou’re actually good that is.

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And to the “1 trick” comment, because no person could possibly have more than 1 account. May be diamond in the game but not diamond in the brain. You sound like all other blizzard players, reach X and then we can talk lol. xQc was right and you have epitomized his words.

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But it’s not a skill based game. It’s a hero based game.

And most heroes can AOE in hallways.

Ana bionade
Ashe Dynamite
Bastion Tank
D.Va Bomb
Doomfist Meteor Strike
Genji blade and deflecting explosives
Hanzo Dragonstrike
Junkrat
McCree Flashbang
Mei
Moira Biotic Orb and Coalescence
Pharah
Reaper Death Blossom
Reinhardt
Roadhog Ult
Soldier Helix Rockets
Sombra EMP
Symmetra Secondary fire
Torbjörn Molten Core
Tracer Pulse Bomb
Winston
Hammond Minefield
Zarya Graviton surge and secondary fire

He also has many counters.
Genji
Pharah
Widowmaker
Hanzo
Ashe
Zarya

And most heroes can avoid being killed by RIP-Tire

Lúcio Sound Barrier
Brigitte shield
Doomfist ult
Mei iceblock
Moira Fade
Orisa Fortify
Pharah in general
Reaper wraith form
Reinhardt shield
Roadhog Take-A-Breather
Tracer Blink
Zarya Bubble
Zenyatta Transcendence (To save himself)

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Yah because I said I have so much trouble with junk. I just see poor broken design and point it out. Not everyone that has a complaint means they personally have trouble with it. Just some of us don’t drink the koolaid

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Junkrat is easier to counter and less painful compared to other heroes.

Not to mention at his current state, doing it is quite easy.

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