Junkrat not taking damage from his primary fire makes perfect sense, but he really should take damage from his ult again.
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More like the exact opposite lol.
So he doesnt take damage from a grenade, not from a mine, like 0 damage, not even 1% but a “bigger” mine that can move around yes … 400 damage?
… dude, i think we have very different ideas regarding consistency.
No.
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He totally should. So i can blow myself with it when feel like game isn’t going anywhere and there’s no more point in trying
He’s already in the garbage tier, and you want to nerf him?
Look. If you’re bad/new enough at this game that Junkrat is a problem for you, just ask. There are plenty of people who can explain what you’re doing wrong and how to properly play against him.
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Might as well also revert D.va too.
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Yes
I honestly can’t think of a single situation in which this would be a meaningful change, if Junkrat is activating his ult next to an enemy, chances are the enemy is going to kill him/tire regardless, due to the delay of activation on his ult.
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Really? Ive seen so many Rats just jump into the middle of a team, use the ult and immediately kill people with no consequence.
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And I’ve seen an equal amount of Junks trying that and getting killed before they even get the ult off (me included) and most of the time it’s not even the enemy team actively reacting, but just the sheer amount of random damage.
Sounds like the team that allowed him to do that in the first place is the REAL problem here…
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Well, that doesn’t surprise me too much, but his voice line is so loud.
If I hear Junk ulting and I’m playing Solider for example, if he presses Q, if I fire a tiny burst I’ll destroy tire, or if I fire a helix it will always kill tire and almost kill him.
Tire is super easy to kill, the real problem is, people panic when they hear the voice line, I know I can. I have PTSD from when Junk was in every single, so I have pretty solid reactions to rip tire these days.
Honestly, it wont matter what I say. If you dont agree then there is nothing I can say to convince you otherwise.
There is a problem when you try to counter Junkrat by killing him but then he just drives the tire back to his body and kills you. That doesn’t really leave room for much counter play.
I agree that his primary fire shouldn’t damage him but his ult should have stayed just like Pharahs. He has enough mobility now that it is fair for the ult to kill himself.
That’s called revenge mate, its JR countering YOU for killing him. The tyre can be countered by SHOOTING IT.
True, JR isn’t in the best spot at the moment and he doesn’t need a neft to make him even weaker. So unless you’re offering a small buff to some other part of his kit to compensate for the big nerf you want to give him then you’re darn tootin I’m gonna disagree with it.
Well sometimes as Junkrat you can bait people (usually tracer or Genji) into trying to find you as you’re riptiring then exploding it over them.
So that would be useful there. It’s true that strategy won’t let you get a big 4K or even a 2k. But it does save your life and guarantee you one kill
Youre allowed. lol. I just dont think he needs to be immune from his own ult. If that is the case, the same should go for Pharah not killing herself with her ult.
This is true, but as soon as you shoot the tire, Junkrat is no longer stunned and then you have to kill him. You have to kill 2 things to counter one ult. Its like if you have to kill Pharahs rockets before you could kill her.
The best way to kill the Junkrat is to just kill the Junkrat. If the tire comes back to kill you after, then so be it, but at least you managed to kill the player which is more important.
Ever since that buff, its much harder to kill him because he will just detonate the tire over his own body and bait you into trying to kill him and then he gets away for free.
Than let it activate instantly and not in like 3 seconds.
You mean let him use the tire as soon as he hits Q?
I dont see any problem with this as a trade off for the ult killing him again. Plus it would be really nice to be able to use the tire as soon as you have it.
Pharah’s rockets barrage is the HIGHEST dps ability in the game. It can do a max of 3600 damage! it would be insanity if she didn’t take damage from it because she could decimate in tight spaces.
In comparison, Junkrats tyre can 60 - 600 depending on how close you are to it. Junkrats job is to dominate and control the tight spaces, which is why they removed his self damage in the first place.
To be honest I rarely see Junkrats doing what you describe because most of the time it results in death and destroyed tyre. Not to say it DOESN’T sometimes but it’s not common.
Well like I said above, it should activate faster and it should do 600 damage. No falloff. 600 damage every time and maybe up the radius from 10 to 12 meters. But it should kill Junkrat.