He would still be a good hero and it would make him balanced. He can melt shields and punish people better than most hero’s and his ult is pretty powerful and mobile and his primary fire acts as cc and his mine and trap too. So having him hurt himself is fair
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No
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“Tracer has three blinks and recall so cutting her base movement speed in half is fair.”
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You say balanced, as a junkrat main I say that would make him unplayable
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No. The mines give Junkrat all off his mobility so having them damage him would discourage probably the most skilled part of the hero. Aerial trick shots and map geometry awareness
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-Play Winston, D.va, Hammond
-Jump into Junkrats face
-Junkrat can’t deal enough damage to defend himself, plus he starts to kill himself as well
Quality stuff
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junkrat can actually kill himself, if he jumps off the map he dies
seriously though he is in a pretty bad place right now, maybe even needs a minor buff or two
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sees ANOTHER nerf junkrat thread
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This would pretty much just elimate Junkrat’s mobility because he would be discouraged from using his shift ability.
No thanks.
People are calling for Pharah to do no damage to herself with her rockets though, and I’m not sure how to feel about it.
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Junk’s winrate is pretty low right now with Zarya and Hanzo being meta. I don’t think he needs any nerfs.
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I actually tend to agree with OP. They didn’t say that the concussion mine should deal self-damage. They’re probably just referring to his initial state where his primary fire and ult did self-damage.
edit: I’m not calling for a nerf, I just wish they’d rethink his gameplay a bit. He already requires very lenient aim. He at least deserves to be in a state where he has to worry about something.
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And he was useless outside of Bronze because people realized that if you play a mobile tank you can just get into his face and force him to kill himself on your body as you attack him.
Currently Junkrat is fine; it’s Hanzo that is the problem
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I really wish people would stop saying this.
“Hur dur, Why does pharah hurt herself and junkrat doesn’t”
JR is designed to be one of two things.
- Close quarters high aoe damage hero
- Barrier buster path clearing hero
Just by the fact his optimal rage is up close n personal. Having him be able to damage himself is an insanely stupid idea.
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I get that you want Junkrat to take more skill (I do to) but peeps need to stop with “bring back self harm.” It didn’t work then it won’t work now. Try a different idea.
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Yes.
He really shouldn’t though. Of all the possible ways to nerf him, that would be a slap on the wrist.
Not that he needs a nerf, but get more creative.
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I think it’s more of a “punch in the face” than a “slap on the wrist” but the point still stands.
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She doesn’t hurt herself nearly as much as I feel she should. She’s almost as oppressive in CQC as Junkrat.
If it were up to me, Junkrat would get his old self-damage back, and the existing self-damage for heroes would receive at least a 30% increase, with a lower percentage if armored and/or shielded. Soldier: 76 should not survive a point blank Helix, IMO.
No thanks.
His weapon is indirect fire, which means low accuracy at range. So if you take away his ability to be very lethal up close by causing self-damage, you’ve highly unbalanced the character.
Also, his Ult isn’t that powerful. It’s loud, doesn’t take much damage, and leaves him completely unaware of his surroundings and defenseless. It’s a very disorienting process.
Try not being where he’s shelling an area. No one says “Hey guys! This place is being bombarded by artillery! Let’s stay put and endure imminent death!” He can be harassed and stopped from doing what his class is designed to do (defense, area of denial), but engaging him at mid to long range is the most ideal way to kill him.
Your tactic of needing to get up into someone’s face to kill them is a downfall vs. Junkrat because he has high burst damage potential at that range. Adjust your tactics and try again.
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Sorry, That right there really made me laugh. Everyone including you is entitled to their opinions but I’ve never ever seen anyone complaining about soldier helix’ing himself before.
It really helps him get to places and is a bonus part of his kit.