It’s just roadhog but you don’t have to be skilled enough to deal with the weaknesses of large hitbox, antiheal, and being punished for missing abilities and the 2 patches she was hard meta were among the worst 2 of the OW2 era it’s actually a travesty this isn’t a top 5 most hated tank
Just you saying this nonsense proves how incredibly out of touch you are.
“Weaknesses of a large hit box”. Queen has way less health than Road, and would be incredibly dumb to have the same sized hit box.
“Antiheal” this is a death sentence for most Queen engages. She is just as vulnerable to anti as Road is.
“Not being punished for missing abilities” Yes, let’s just not get any self healing from wounds, and see how long you last. You are heavily punished for missing your abilities.
Sounds like you got owned by a Queen and are here to cope about it.
You can miss Jagged Edge.
You can’t really miss a Carnage.
Not that big of a weakness given that she can buff up her health to 725, 25 less than Roadhog.
She’s not, given that Command Shout and Biotic Grenade share the same cooldowns, so when Biotic Grenade goes online, Command Shout is there to protect against it.
Jagged Edge has an extra function when it misses.
It also has a new Perk that does a lot more healing too.
But yeah, missing Carnage can be bad - especially in Stadium.
Queen was fine till they gave her a perk to delete 90% of counter play to her ult.
It’s temporary, and degrades fast. It’s a big weakness compared to Road’s base 750 health+TaB+Headshot reduction+CC reduction.
Why are you always so quick to say the absolute dumbest takes as if they are pure fact?
Ana will wait for shout to come out before nading you, and vice versa. If you nade me before I shout, you f’d up.
Tell me you never play Queen without telling me. If you are missing carnage swings, you are missing out on the bulk of your self healing. I main Queen in Master 1-3 (Depending on day), and she’s just as vulnerable to everything listed as Road is.
Side note: 200 temporary over health, that gets instantly deleted does not help against being anti’d by Ana.
Suzu exists, anti exists, IF exists…
And the old tried method of just… Shoot her in the face at range where she can’t do much to you.
Please never speak on Queen again. Carnage is easy to miss thanks to all the boops and disrupts in the game, not to mention if the enemy team has a Lucio, he can just speed his team away from her, while booping her back.
Hard to be top 5 most hated tank when hazard ram mauga and hog exist. That leaves only one spot and I’m sure most people are going to put ball, zarya, or dva before queen.
I’d say they’re pretty similar, with the caveat that Junker Queen has to actively engage to keep her mitigation going (via healing through Adrenaline Rush Wounds effect), whereas Roadhog just pushes a button and hides.
And the mind games continues.
Sure Dragon Punch knocks me out of the air, but if I time jumps right and bait those DPs, I can avoid being countered by them.
Why would you think it wouldn’t work the same way in Overwatch?
Barriers counter lots of damage and ultimates, but Tanks still die. Rampage is still effective even if Kiriko is running on the team.
I just said that missing Carnage can be bad.
Yes it is.
If the Kiri has any braincells functioning, she will Suzu every rampage you do, and make them completely useless, and causing you to be isolated with the enemy team, with no self healing up. It’s just death if the Kiri is playing right.
Then you also contradict yourself with…
Like I am not hating on you, but do you ever keep up with what you’re trying to say?

If the Kiri has any braincells functioning, she will Suzu every rampage you do, and make them completely useless, and causing you to be isolated with the enemy team, with no self healing up. It’s just death if the Kiri is playing right.
If Kiriko is only using Protection Suzu to fend on Junker Queen’s Wounds, and not the rest of the enemy team’s debuffs… she’s not really doing a good job.

Like I am not hating on you, but do you ever keep up with what you’re trying to say?
Try reading a bit more carefully.

If Kiriko is only using Protection Suzu to fend on Junker Queen’s Wounds, and not the rest of the enemy team’s debuffs
Do you not understand priority? If you use suzu to cleanse say a carnage, you’re leaving your team open for the Rampage. The bell sound of Suzu acts like a boxing match. Ding ding means throw the rampage.
Any Master+ rank Kiri will always have Suzu ready to counter Rampage, really now that Queen can be unstoppable during the wind up and charge forward.

Try reading a bit more carefully.
I read it just fine, you’re the one all over the place, and making less sense than ever. You literally said “You can’t really miss a carnage.” then turned around and said you didn’t say that, you said this.
It’s all been quoted and it’s on display for everyone to see, sir.

Do you not understand priority? If you use suzu to cleanse say a carnage, you’re leaving your team open for the Rampage. The bell sound of Suzu acts like a boxing match. Ding ding means throw the rampage.
Any Master+ rank Kiri will always have Suzu ready to counter Rampage, really now that Queen can be unstoppable during the wind up and charge forward.
OK.
What if the enemy team with Junker Queen has an Ana with Biotic Grenade? Or an Ashe that lands a dynamite on most of Kiriko’s team? Or the team gets caught in Mei’s Blizzard?

I read it just fine, you’re the one all over the place, and making less sense than ever. You literally said “You can’t really miss a carnage.” then turned around and said you didn’t say that, you said this.
It’s all been quoted and it’s on display for everyone to see, sir.
When reading, it is important to understand context.
You guys don’t like when I get long-winded.

What if the enemy team with Junker Queen has an Ana with Biotic Grenade? Or an Ashe that lands a dynamite on most of Kiriko’s team? Or the team gets caught in Mei’s Blizzard?
1.) Queen is anti’d on cool down, and with tank passives, it doesn’t last as long as it did and is easier to play around, not requiring Suzu that often.
2.) If your team gets hit by a big dynamite, that’s on them, and you’re going to be FORCED to use Suzu. In my rank people aren’t sitting together to get mass AoE’d like that.
3.) If you Suzu a blizzard, you’re not exactly bright. The blizzard will out last the suzu cleanse+immortality, and just refreeze whoever isn’t lucky enough to be on the edges of the ult when suzu comes off.

When reading, it is important to understand context.
There was no context, you flat out said you cannot really miss a carnage, got called on it, and then back tracked.

You guys don’t like when I get long-winded.
We don’t like your long winded takes, because they are gold level at best, and you scream how right you are, when everyone else is telling you just how wrong you are.
As a Rein player, you leave Rein with a shotgun(and no shield) alone.
Axe wins, you lose.
The only reason why I ever play Roadhog over her at this point is just to use his ultimate. But of course, he’s such a fat hidden box, it’s hard to even enjoy the full eight seconds of it in the first place.
Exactly. Finally someone with some common sense! Yes! Preach!
Junkerqueen is for posers.
You forgot to mention doom. Definitely one of the more hated tanks.

Suzu exists, anti exists, IF exists…
IF gets shredded and anti doesn’t stop her ult lmao

And the old tried method of just… Shoot her in the face at range where she can’t do much to you.
If she’s ulting
She’s probably in range of you
yea but I’m biased so I ain’t saying it.
“Im big mad people don’t hate the heroes I hate. Its a damn travesty.”

It’s just roadhog but you don’t have to be skilled enough to deal with the weaknesses of large hitbox
Roadhog hits hook and gets a confirmed kill because it stuns from 20m.
Jagged edge is an arced projectile that pulls people in but can be mitigated.
She doesn’t self-heal as she walks away with damage reduction. She doesn’t boop people away with her ult. She has less HP. Literally not like Roadhog at all.