Joining a stack could set you up for a losing streak

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I’m going to try to make this as simple as I can.

I have 3 accounts with @50+ games this season, near 2300 SR.
I had my main account near @2000.

Joined a group with Zax, on my 2k account, had a fun time, we played some games, won all of them. He was using a bronze account for his bronze tank adventure.

After which, no longer grouped with Zax, it was described to ME as my SR/MMR skewed so heavily, that the system was giving me games at a much higher MMR and I went into a loss streak that dropped me down to 1740. I had games where I had 80% elim participation, 60 elims and 20k dmg but not enough to win. I posted some of those games here on the forum and the response was it wasnt even my fault we lost the game.

Proving I didnt belong in mid-silver I then went on a 9 game win streak. That was the last time I played so I couldnt get it back to gold but I think I can.

All the while to slow my loss streak, I was still winning on my other accounts that were 2300.

Now some folks will have you believe that I played worse after playing with Zax. That doesnt explain me climbing on my 2300 accounts.

Some folks would say that over 3 accounts I got carried by random people all across the multiple games. That doesnt explain the 9 game win streak proving I didnt belong in mid-silver.

Question is, why did group with Zax skew my MMR so badly that I couldnt hang in a rank where I have other accounts? Is this a system flaw that should be at least looked at, corrected.

Not all stacks messes with your MMR. Joining a Stack with a previous masters player while they’re in bronze… does. What other scenarios could mess with your MMR? Thats why I caution folks when joining a stack. If its with a smurf or other strange circumstance, prepare for “weird” games later.

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None of this is true. Stop chatting nonsense.

You’ve been told repeatedly your MMR isn’t impacted by others. Why doesn’t information sink in…

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No it was me winning with Zax.

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That won’t change your MMR. Your performances will.

You’ve been told this repeatedly, but because you didn’t like the response you’ve come to the echo chamber.

Good luck.

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Any system where you can have sustained, evenly matched games at one tier, while being on a loss streak on another account that is around 600SR below the other, is broken. It’s not even debatable. As long as you’re not throwing (you aren’t) there is no viable explanation other than there is something wrong with the competitive system. Period.

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Ah. Another forum conspiracy theorist. Welcome to the hen house.

It is almost like you are playing on 2 different accounts and 2 different times, against and with totally different set of people having totally different days.

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None of what you just mentioned should matter in a proper ranked system, ever. You are light years away from understanding how these things should work.

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This place is a circus. You are just one of the clowns.

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Let’s forget about this whole made-up MMR thing and whatever it means, and let’s think about what external factors really affect your performance.

The chances of a stack affecting your performance are higher than with a single player on your team.

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My performance? With Zax or after Zax? With Zax again I played like I normally did, perhaps his tanking enabled me to do more.

This is a blanket statement without giving details and you expect me to just take it on faith.

I’m tell in ya in “their echo chamber” even the possibility of said system skewing mmr was not possible even tho one them described it as such.

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That is all you needed.

Just your performances are what impacts MMR.

But like I said, you’ve been told by many people. Didn’t like what you were told so said you were going to come crying to the forums.

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Winning or losing? Stats? Before or after Zax?

Details man.

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Your individual performances.

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Whatever….

With Zax, I did fine, he didn’t even take gold medals I still was the damage dealer. After Zax I won like 1 game.

Then I lost 3, switch accounts and gain 50 on an account that was 2200. No drops on those accounts.

So I’m confused as to you say performance. As rhain said the system is sensitive enough to know the performance on all the accounts we’re the same.

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Why don’t you marry Zax then… lol

Jokes aside. Playing in a duo makes some synergies easier. If you click it can reduce the impact of some of the more random elements. These can lead to potentially better performances as there is less “random” things to worry about. You will always be subconsciously more relaxed which will again lead to better performances.

Playing with a smurf that was boosting you will also help a lot.

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Zax technically didn’t boost me. That same account peaked to 2488 couple seasons ago.

Imagine… you guys almost had me on your side. 5 accounts all in gold. I was going to say wow the system is accurate, I cant escape where my skills place me.

But…. Sh!t happens and now there’s a specific flaw and the only defense you guys come up with is projecting some pseudo psychological bs as 1 out of 5 drops for strange reasons and you guys blame me. You know how hard I’m trying to get to plat and you guys think I would purposefully drop?

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That is because you are not very bright and are clutching at straws to explain things you don’t understand.

I know how hard you are trying. It is making go a little loopy.

Sadly, at your current skill level you aren’t going to get there without being boosted, and you won’t stay there without serious work on your game play.

You’ve basically got to find around 1000sr of improvements on your DPS. That isn’t going to happen by crying when you lose a game.

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Ahh I forgot every 2300 account has been boosted by random folks for every single game.

At least I don’t blame the player for systematic faults. Having multiple accounts allow me to have fail safes for just this reason. Allows me to see and hopefully show that there are non skill issues with this system.

But damn, even with this proof git gud won’t accept it.

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No. I am just ignoring your other accounts as you haven’t played enough on them.

You play mostly on this one and this has settled to your level. (I don’t quote my other account when talking about my SR as it is higher and hasn’t dropped to the right level yet, as I don’t play enough on it).

I blame the player (me) for playing badly when I lose. That is the only reason that matters.

You’ve paid for 2+ extra accounts for a reason you’ve totally made up yourself. Good job they are cheap, that is a pretty dim use of money.

The only “non-skill issues” there are are deranking and account boosting (maybe add hacking too, but thats technically just boosting). If you are just a normal player, playing the game, it is all down to how well you play and work with others.

(btw, you know who I am, this is my alt account I don’t play on very often).

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Yes the other accounts that have 50+ games.

First said he ignores them but then claims I was boosted on them. Which is it? Boosted or didn’t play enough. And even on my low account peaked higher than “those” accounts.

Rhain saw it clearly but you keep hanging onto this farse. Playing with Zax skewed my MMR. I couldn’t carry the games anymore with the skewed mmr and when I drop I proved myself not belonging down there when it normalized, by having a 9 game win streak.

Dude I’m just warning others be careful who you stack with. Just incase there’s a systemic issue.