So I’ve been playing Overwatch for around 3-4 months now (console). I am above average at pretty much any game I play mainly because I don’t enjoy gaming if I’m trash at whatever game it is I’m playing at the time.
So I watch all the videos I can find. (From pro overwatch coaches and high ranking players etc) and try to stick to only a few characters ie Soldier and Tracer if I’m Dps, Ana, Bap or Moira if I play heals (which I do most of the time). I also try to implement something new I’ve learned onto my gameplay as much as possible. (Ie, who not to 1v1, when to expect enemy ults based on the kill feed etc, dont shoot genji deflect (seems obvious maybe but it clearly isnt to some people) ability cooldown management and whatever else.
But no matter what I do I still am stuck in Bronze and I know everyone says this but I know I don’t belong there. Almost every game I play I have gold medals everywhere, getting key picks, making call outs, looking to combo ults, prioritizing damage or heals etc but I still lose almost every match.
Meanwhile yes you guessed it, my team are throwing. Running away from my line of sight when I play healer, not getting any picks from my dps and the tanks just being straight up stupid. Also no one wants to group up.
Throw in a complete lack of intelligent role choice or counter picks too.
To make it worse I often get messages from my teammates after the match BLAMING ME!! for our loss (even though I have the best stats generally and least deaths and also am usually the last on my team to die in team fights because no one else seems to understand how to either disengage or just die quick to regroup. Ana is my most played hero too and I have had many games where I have used sleep dart to counter enemy ults such as Hog, Genji blade, High noon, Bob etc etc and still we lose the fight somehow even with picks and me constant healing my team.
Then I come to forums such as this one and all I see is “If you cant carry from bronze, silver etc out of that rank then you deserve to be there”???
How does this make sense at all? I’ve played overwatch on console in the past on my friends account who was high diamond/low plat and even then was able to keep up with my teammates and win a hell of a lot more than I do now. I really try not to get tilted but its so disheartening to play the game at this point when EVERY SINGLE TIME I log in to play a match we lose by a landslide it seems. The enemy team is almost always playing AS A TEAM which is just amazing to see to be honest because I have rarely had it happen on my team.
Just to clarify I know I’m not the best player in the world and there are still flaws in my gameplay.
I have watched many “Guess the rank” videos by Stylosa where he is watching a player that honestly is playing worse than I do on average and Sty is like “He must be high Plat/Diamond”.
Which to be honest just makes me want to uninstall 
. How can a player who plays worse than I do generally be considered to be at Plat/Diamond skill level when I am in like Mid bronze?? The problem is I love the game and having one good game out of the 20 plus seems to be enough to keep me playing somehow.
Just looking for peoples thoughts on this.
I know its a long winding post but as you can tell I’m frustrated. Its obviously up to you guys whether you believe me when I say I’m not a bronze level player but either way your thoughts are appreciated.
Not looking for the typical “I climbed out of bronze with one hand and both eyes closed” response either thanks.
Ehh, it is kinda your team’s fault, but support is pretty dumb as a role in that the lower rank you are, the more you will need to frag to achieve results most of the time. You can’t just play how those tip videos tell you to play as they contradict what you have to do in lower ranks.
Perhaps play zen or dps more as bap, ana, etc, you could then dps your way out of bronze.
The “carry the team” tip mostly applies to tank and dps, but you have to carry differently as support, mostly by fragging.
I also don’t mean play normal and still get gold elims, you have to be the dps as a support in lower ranks, healing still is needed just way less of it.
This too, post a replay code.
Anyway medals don’t matter that much, main thing as a support is not dying(which you say you do less of, but medals don’t mean anything, just frag)
Post a replay code and ask for a review so you can see where you need to improve.
Edit: Also if you’re playing support in the very bottom ranks you need to do what feels wrong and focus on kills more than healing. Although that doesn’t mean not healing at all.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. Thats the main reason I started playing Bap to try make up for my teams lack of Dps skill. Even then it doesnt do much because my teammates just die quicker.
I’m actually pretty decent with bap in general although I do miss a lot more heal shots with him compared to Ana for example. I also have pretty good use of lamp to counter enemy ults like Junkrats tyre but every time I hear tyre coming I throw lamp onto the bulk of my team and they just instinctively panic and run away, out of the lamps effective range.
I know I could do with getting a team together but its not that easy when the overwatch in game comms are glitched and the only people who tend to talk are toxic and only join comms to make noises or complain.
Comms do nothing at lower ranks(or pretty much at least)
Focus immobile targets/squishies to try to gain an advantage easier
If you really can’t do it as bap or ana, i’d suggest switching to zen.
Trust me, even if your dps die out of spawn, that doesn’t mean you can’t get 2-3-4kills every so often if you can frag well enough.
I’d say if you really notice lamp, matrix, etc aren’t doing much for your team, then use it selfishly, if you can kill half their team by using lamp to gain enough time to headshot half their squishies to death, then do it.
And prob post a replay code too.
I will try to do that soon as possible.
The problem is, even as I’m playing I can see my “mistakes” happening. Like for example I feel like I am feeding myself sometimes but at the same time I have no other choise because someone needs to be on point or we lose :’) or I have to push into a fight in a bad position because thats what my teams is doing etc. I’ve done 4 out of 5 placements for support already and have lost every single one so Its just going to put me into an even lower SR than I was before. Which is just dreadful because I have improved a lot since my last placements ironically.
It’s one of the problems of them splinting the roles for Rank. Bronze to gold is pretty bad in terms of team work, cooperation and Team mates that actually want to win and aren’t just smurfing, throwing etc. It’s also the easiest ranks for cheaters to hide, cause if they lose the account it doesn’t really cost them much so expect more aim bots and the like.
Though on console, not entirely sure how bad that problem is obviously for you.
While the general excuse of the problem is you isn’t entirely true. OW is a team game and it takes 6 people more or less working together better than the enemy 6 are to win. IT only takes one person to lose a match.
If you get a leaver, a thrower or just some one really really bad at the game there isn’t a lot you can do. Especially if your pick tank or support as those roles tend to be more “supportive” in nature. Your healing is in general only as effective as the team your healing.
If your team is trash, healing trash won’t help you win unless the enemy team happens to be even more trash.
I use lamp to try save my tanks if they go full aggro or to counter ults. My window I only every use for myself though because I know its a waste of time putting it in front of any of my dps.
They’d probably run to the other side and start shooting back at me wouldn’t surprise me at this point.
if its one of your first comp seasons they usually place you decently low base on a lot of different things but you should just worry about having hard value in bronze stop overthinking everything and just forcus on your raw aim game sense is not needed in bronze
If you’re the rank you claim to be there is no doubt you could stomp the people in your rank.
Sounds more like there is more to the story.
And honestly, why you watching videos? play the game yourself and stop studying videos lol a pro player plays WAYYY different to lower ranks.
I have acct in gold that I haven’t played in years and I’m 100% certain I could go on that account rn and easily climb it to diamond+ without any issues whatsoever.
Not really though, to me it sounds like(at least on ana) that they try to heal/support too much instead of fragging.
Doesn’t mean there aren’t other things to consider, but how would a new player know to frag without multiple people telling them?
Thats what I’m saying…I do generally stomp the enemy team, but we still lose.
And I watch videos when I can’t play the game…I never said I sit on my console and watch videos instead of playing the game…that would be silly :’)
exactly, if they’re not playing the hero properly, then of course they are not going to climb y’no what I mean?
Show us a replay code of a game where you’re not sure why you lost (not one with leavers or throwers, but one you think you’re playing well)
Also you could always get a second account and if you place bronze again then you obviously belong there lmao
Just to clarify.
I have a pretty good sense of when to heal and when to dps.
If I think I can get a pick even as Ana I go for it.
I’ve also watched a lot of Ml7 and look for aggressive nades etc to help with getting picks.
I have managed on a fair few occasions to sleep dart blinking tracers too so my mechanics arent really that much of a problem.
I know playing the game more will help which is why I havent just uninstalled because as I said I really enjoy the game when the team are playing somewhat effieciently. I target mercy every time I see her as its pretty easy to 3 tap a flying mercy in my opinion or at least hit her enough to make her have to retreat and stop healing for a bit.
I also know I should probably just play dps but I already dont have a massive amount of time to play and the queue times are like 15 mins every time. (When this is the case I go into deathmatch so that I can still get game time in)
Ehh, maybe you can hit multiple tracers and flying mercy’s but it’s all about consistency, if your mechanics allow you to sleep a tracer a decent amount of the time, cool. But your mechanics should really be getting you half team wipes to get out of bronze.
If you consistently can headshot squishies without dying, then your good to go until gold/plat, but as other people said post a replay, trust me, a replay review will help much more than anything else in this thread.
But yeah if you were good at only one thing as a low rank support, it’d probably have to be killing squishies fast enough without dying.
I will try to as soon as possible.
Generally I can tell why we lost though or at least what I believe to be the reason.
I’l let you guys decide what ye think once I get the replay though.
Edit: TexanSansei
Are you saying I should be getting half team wipes if my mechanics are good enough to be able to sleep dart tracers?
Because I am a support and they just dont do enough damage to be able to get half team wipes in my opinion.
I could be wrong I guess.
Playing correctly doesn’t always get you out of that rank. You see it all the time with streamers doing unranked to gm. You have to adapt to how that rank plays. IE in this case focus on doing a bit more damage and securing kills. Moira will take you right out of bronze
Yeah I guess you’re right. Almost everytime I play moira I have at least 3 gold medals and pop off. I just prefer Ana and wanted to get a lot of hours in as her so that when I do get to higher ranks I can keep up Might just play Bap or Moira from now on until I climb out of bronze.
Thanks for the advice so far everybody!! Kind of expected nothing but toxic replies :’)
In my experience the game’s matchmaker has taken an incredible nosedive in the last 6-8 months, maybe a bit longer at this point. I haven’t had any ‘real’ matches of Overwatch since the Christmas patch, just because there are so many people who are not actually playing the game the way it was meant to be played.
You might get two or three ‘real’ teammates at your level, but also 2 smurfs that are soft throwing to derank an account, or maybe some streamer that’s doing joke-plays like playing Lucio and wallriding the whole game, or playing Torb and leaving his turret in spawn the whole game. The likelihood of you getting a whole, good team? Absolutely out the window these days.
The only teams that seem to ‘play together’ are grouped up enemy teams, like 4 and 5 stacks - which are actually strangely common these days. I’d say about every other game I get nowadays is up against a 3+ stack at the very least. And a coordinated 3 stack playing Rein Zarya Mercy are going to easily dominate an uncoordinated team full of throwers and smurfs.