It's not that Hog Is OP

It’s that he’s cancer. He’s a feeder who’s whole game plan is to flank all game and fish for a cheap one shot on the enemy’s backline while being basically unpunishable no matter how hard he misplays because of his crazy health pool, healing, and damage reduction. And if he misses his cheap one shot then he’s literally doing nothing until his Hook comes off cooldown.

The hero sucks to play with and he sucks to play against, his design is horrible.

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I don’t get why people complain about heroes like Doom when Hog exists.

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I adamantly disagree with this assessment. Piglet is not a terrible disease, nor does he feed that much with his passive. And landing the one shot really only works on people who are positioned quite poorly. It is not my fault the enemies are so bad they cannot punish me. I can still one shot without hook.

The last part is fair enough. I just think you are mistaken about literally everything else.

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I don’t blame hog, when someone is hooked and killed I see if there an incompetent D.va player nearby incapable of saving people from it.

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I really REALLY would like to see this invincible hog thing. Cause I’ll tell you when I’m out of position as hog I get melted like butter in a fusion reactor. Like split second.

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Oh yes he is. He is cancer. Or at least diabetes. Or tetanus.

Oh I bet he still feeds more than any other hero. D.va has matrix, ball has his shields, barrier tanks have barriers. Hog is just fat and has a big head. You really think having a 25% passive will feed less than 100% damage denial? I think the only denial here is the denial that you’re in.

This is complete garbage, I hear this trash in every hog discussion. Poor positioning = being within 20m of a hero that can basically just go wherever he wants

Push E or whatever the console equivalent is

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This really doesn’t save you from stuns or anti-nade or honestly the amount of damage incoming from 4-6 people who have noticed you are nowhere NEAR any support.

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But it’ll save you from everything else. Do you see how weird you sound? “Hog actually can’t survive a literal 1v6 or Ana who can shut down every tank except maybe D.Va, it’s a 50/50 with her! He’s fine!!!” Obviously I was exaggerating that’s why I put ‘‘basically’’ in the original post

Look I’m not going to sit here and try to convince you to hate Hog, I don’t even want to. Just don’t bullcrap me

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It… is supposed to heal manageable damage and make him survivable as a tank who will be drawing around 3-5 peoples attention almost constantly. What do you want it to do? Be like Soldiers can? He would die almost instantly.

Do you?

I mean… that’s not what I said but I’m sure that’s all you read.

Basically doesn’t mean figuratively. Literally does now, which I’m not happy about. But basically means “in a general sense”. In which case he is not generally unpunishable. Lots of characters have stuns which will interrupt and ruin his TaB.

I’m speaking from several hundred hours of playing him in every mode. He is very punishable and it’s not even hard.

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How about be balanced like it was at the start of the game when Hog was actually reliably punishable if he’s going to stay like he is now

No

Okay tell me what you meant. I see you said Hog heal won’t save you from: 4-6 people (1v6) anti nade (Ana) and stuns (I didn’t mention this because, really, hook has 20m range even if you’re at half of that range how are you getting stunned unless you’re contesting point…) Say it clearly this time.

Okay whatever

Or maybe you’re just trash, it’s a thought

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I’m always mildly confused, with these complaint threads. That offer no suggestions on how to “fix” said character they’re complaining about.

:thinking:

Okay, we get you don’t like them for X or Y reason.

But how would you fix them?

and if you say turn into a DPS, your opinion is immediately invalid and void. Stop trying to give the role with 17 heroes already, another one. Thanks. :kissing_heart:

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Poorly positioned aka you are never allowed to peek the 1 entrance into the enemy side because roadhog is standing there waiting.

Sometimes he takes the liberty of walking to your side and peek to fish for a kill and then immediately walk away unpunishable.

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His design is so horrible he would ideally need a whole rework. I’ll let the devs earn their paycheck.

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Probably because the game has very much changed since then.

Hog has several vulnerabilities to several characters and if he’s out of position he’s away from his support and susceptible to the focused or partial attention of the other team.

It’s possible I’m bad at him. However considering I’m of average comp rank as well as having decent accuracy metrics, I would argue that if I have decent metrics on an OP character I should be ROCKETING up in ranks.

“I don’t know I just can’t deal with it so it needs to change”

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I think the 1 - 3 - 2 changes, that were tested would say otherwise. Not to mention the plethora of ways, his current kit could be changed to make him more of a Utility and a Tank.

Not a alone, one man army. That he’s gotten the reputation of being.

So your lazy and just complaining without offering any suggestions on how.

Got it. Have a nice day. :slightly_smiling_face:

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What infuriates people like the OP is that characters like Hog are a skill check against positioning. If you have good positioning, then you won’t get hooked as much.

I get that no one likes losing control of their hero, but in this regard I find McCree and Doom to be FAR worse.

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Yeah you’re right about the second part. And they’re susceptible to him pressing E and walking away lmao

Learn to read. It’s literally in the title that I don’t think the hero is OP

I’m giving my feedback about how I feel about a certain hero, crazy right. You act like I’m the only one saying these things too.

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Its funny because cassidy and doomfist cant do anything to hog cuz they are meant to play within 20 meters and thats hog’s range.

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This trash once again, of course. Bad positioning = within 20m of a hero who is so durable he can pretty much just walk wherever he needs to. Your argument is just garbage, there are Hog’s doing the same stuff in high ranks (GM).

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Yeah well… He’s also one of the only fun tanks to play right now so blame Blizzard for their bad balancing.