Is Winstons Tesla a lock on?

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So everyone by now knows the argument about moira’s beam being a lock on, it’s everywhere and at this point is just a whole mess.

Anyways, I’ve continued to see two arguments about moira’s beam

  1. It’s a lock on
  2. The hitbox is so big it can be considered a lock on

And I’d like to awnser these arguments but using Winston rather than Moira.

So this is apparently obvious to nobody but Winston and moira’s beam pretty much exactly the same (minus damage, range, and multi hit). So let me explain the similarities real quick

  1. Both beams have a hitbox in front of them
  2. Both attacks break off once enemy is off screen
  3. Both disconnect and reconnect the same way, and don’t “stick” to targets

Okay I think that should be enough. Now let me get back to the main point of this post, adding Winston to the argument that Moira has a lock on.

1. Moira’s beam is a lock on

So I’ve seen this alot. The thing about moira’s beam is that it posses none of the same traits of a lock on, but rather, it has the same effect as large hitbox weapons (Winston, zarya, symmetra, Mei). Now what bothers me is that I rarely see the argument that Winston has a lock on. If you’re going to call moira’s beam a lock on, well then you should be consistent.

2. The hitbox is so big it can be considered a lock on

Okay so it is true that moira’s beam is freakishly large and quite frankly, very easy to hit. Both of these traits also apply to Winstons Tesla, it also has a very large hitbox that is pretty the entire screen (or a good portion of it)

If people are going to call moira’s beam a lock on, atleast be consistent

inb4 people call me a brainless boosted Moira main

Putting this here because it is beautifully explained

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Winston hits you, when he can nearly hit a meele.
Moira hits you outside of most heroes effective range.

I would expand winston to shotguns then. :sweat_smile:
They hit, even i aim a good chunk away from the target.

I’d say its the range that makes ppl upset.
The same thing i’d say about Coalesence.

Its not lock on (especially as this would create a thread only about lock on)

Its just pretty much impossible to miss.

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And that changes…

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It’s not a lock on. It’s the exact same giant hitbox thing as moira but it’s shaped different and it cleaves.

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If you have a perfect sphere that hurts anything it touches, is it locking on when it collides with something…?

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I’m not here to change something.

Its just my view why the community calls it like that and why nobody cares about winston. :sweat_smile:

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winston does not have lock on he has a hitbox the size of a barn door.
if your inside his barnyard door and close enught your hit… its that simple…

the visuals may seam like lock on like with moira but it’s not…

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Winston’s cannon is an AoE frontal cone

Moria is single target

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Neither one is a lock-on. Winston’s is an area-of-effect cleave and Moira’s is a beam. Symettra was a lock-on and the big differentiating factor is that you could go behind Symettra or around a corner and her beam would still be attached. Moira’s aim is forgiving but it has to be to fulfill its role of fending of the hyper mobile flankers like Tracer and Genji.

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Winston’s beam and Moira’s function differently. Moira’s is just a thick beam with a misleading visual. Winston’s is an AOE effect. His is a cone like Earh Shatter, but extremely short ranged.

Lock ons like Mercy’s beam function differently.

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The easiest way to define a lock on :
Does it continue to have it’s full constant effect even after the original conditions for the hit are no longer met?
Yes: Lock on
No: Not lockon

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Yeah sym’s turrets still fit this shema.
Not 100% sure but it feels once connected to you, the beam can get a bit longer than they are when they attack you.

Like the max range increase slightly once attacking.
But could also be just a feeling bc of the slow effect.

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Ah yes the thread topic that keeps coming back…

The only lock-ons in the game are mercy’s left click and turrets

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Is anyone actually arguing about this anymore? Thought this was dead.

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Sadly not

As long as Moira is relevant for the first time since she launched, she’s going to have “lock-on”

When she goes back to the dumpster people will forget about her and witch hunt the next support

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No it’s not. Simply because the fact that her beam is so thick makes aiming easier does not make it a lock on.

Mercy has a lock-on old Symm had a lock-on. You know why? because the beam would not disconnect unless the target essentially got out of range.

Also Rein’s swing is not a lock on. It’s a cleave. Winton’s Weapon is a resource based cleave. It does damage to anyone standing in the cone.

All you’re doing is spreading misinformation

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Depending on your perspective there is no true lock-on (or, they’re all lock-ons), they’re all hitscan AoEs that have visual lock-ons and slightly different behaviors. Even Symmetra’s old beam functions in a similar way to Moira’s and Winston’s it’s just the ‘spread angles’ that are different and in Winston’s case it can effect multiple targets which is reflected visually.
When Sym’s old beam found a target the angle/AoE changed as did the behavior, break threshold etc. all deliberately coded that way… it’s not an attached object that interacts with the games physics, the tethering is simulated the same way Moira’s is.

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It is a cone.

That deals damage to anyone inside of it.

Winston is one of the few heroes that can hurt multiple heroes at once. But he also deals a pitiful but constant amount of damage.

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Yep - its nothing but an AOE attack.