Is widow the hardest sniper in any shooter?

Seriously, I have more time in OW than sny other shooter but I am better with every other sniper I have used. Combination of OW’s movement, movement abilities hitbox size and variety, and widow not getting any value on bodyshots.

Of course the tradeoff is that widow gets way more value per frag than almost any other character in any other shooter

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I’m pretty sure it’s the other way around unless you are talking about Paladins and MR.

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not really close. We have shooters where you have to compensate for gravity, for instance. We have shooters where someone can one-shot you from the same distance you can one-shot them with a sniper if you miss your shot.

Even TF2 Sniper have to hit his headshots while being mindfull of other snipers, flying soldiers and demomens, Scouts and Spies, a character that can backstab you to a hitkill while you’re not looking.

If all, I’d consider Widow to be one of the easiers snipers in a shooter. Her projectile size and character’s hitboxes are insane and she can escape danger every couple of seconds as if it was nothing.

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U never played planetside and it shows

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No because she’s hitscan. The character herself is a relatively easy sniper.

What makes her difficult in particular relative to other snipers is the game surrounding Widow. Tanks and hypermobility make life difficult for her. Tanks with hypermobility are a nightmare to deal with.

Dunno man in games like batlefield snipers cant even touch tanks

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Yeah, video game tanks are tough, hypermobile video game tanks are a nightmare, actual real tanks? Good luck!

It could be worse, it could be the Halo Tank! That one’ll snipe ya right back!

It’s easy in the sense that there is no bullet speed, flinch, bullet drop etc. But the shooters with all those mechanics don’t have the no movement acceleration and things dashing all over.

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in planetside they do just that, plus flying ships for that hyper mobility

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Hanzo.

Genji.

TF2’s sniper?

Look, I have a lot of love for TF2, but the Sniper class in that game is far campier. In matches with 12-15 teammates to keep the opposing side distracted, you can generally get away with playing passively and still win.

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Yeah. I agree with you about tf2 sniper. Tf2 sniper is easier imo, also because barring the machina and the heatmaker, he doesn’t have any tracer. You can spam out shots during the chaos. Then theres the quick scope and source headshots can be kind of wonkey with scoring headshots when they really shouldn’t have. But that last one does go the other way around too.

There’s a killcam in TF2 showing you where he is precisely though, and you can call it out.

Not like you’ll learn where the popular sniping spots are with a minimal amount of experience.

Plus you can harass him with any weapon, since he flinches while aiming and Widow doesn’t.

Widow is the easiest incarnation of the sniper archetype in any game. Except maybe the Perfect Dark XR-20 Rifle.

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Isn’t the thread about Widow? Hanzo has to account to gravity, yes, but does Widow? She is hitscan. She’s not even the hardest character in her game.

And yeah, Genji can one-shot widow (deflecting and with his own 3 projectiles) but this is far more nuanced than Counter Strike, for instance, where someone can headshot you with an AK-47 and instakill you even if you have a sniper.

And yeah, altough he profits a lot on the chaos, he has to survive the chaos as well and has no way of escaping it as widow does. It’s harder to hit headshots as him and you need to pay more mind to flankers as well. IMO, he’s harder than Widow, not only Hard as a character overall.

Not the hardest, but if you add up the no accel movement from OW, the health pools, the shields, the healing … things start looking grim.

The worst part is being absolutely defenseless, a cringe joke at close range. I can pull off a Desert Eagle or something close range on any other game (almost) but her SMG? bruh :rofl:

Black Widow in Marvel Rivals is the worst character, so I’d probably call her a harder sniper than Widowmaker.

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Widow also does not need to go out of her way to collect ammo, which is like… one of the main mechanics that balances powerful weapons in other games. She also outranges (almost) every other character, whereas in other games it’s equal opportunity.

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True on TF2, but also the Spy is a real concern, as well as smaller maps where Sniper can’t really help against Engineers

She’s definitely easier to play though

She’s harder to win with because she’s bad, but what she has available to her is a lot easier to manage than Widowmaker. Widowmaker you’ve got a 12 second cooldown on your sole mobility tool while Black Widow has a resource meter sprint and a kick, though I forget what the kick does.

The first year or so of Planetside 1 and Planetside 2 were the best time i’ve had playing a shooter in my life. 200v200’s at the crown, sneaking past entire platoons to try and get the hack started, or shelling it from a distance and getting like 2-3 kills each shot. Or coming in a galaxy however many deep and jumping out to PURE CHAOS.

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Ya know, this question makes me think if it’s fair to judge Widow players on their headshot accuracy alone.

There are so many Widow players who are great at clicking heads, but are so bad at the game because they don’t know how to avoid damage. Yet they are allowed to sit there literally immobile, taking free shots for minutes at a time, because most dps are too lazy to dive her.

Thus, I’d say Widow as a lot harder to play than people think. Most Widows scoring double kill headshots in PotG are Gold at best. Everyone is great at the game when they are left alone to use the match like it’s the practice range.