Hey there I was wondering if using this overlay app is against TOS and would result in your OW account getting banned.
The dev uses the Overwolf client and API, which is apparently approved by Blizz, but I also know that the devs have expressly made statements against services like Pursuit.gg/Visor.gg in the past.
It provides stats on when enemy players swap heroes and also if someone disconnects mid-game.
Link to it is counterwatch.app
if they have forbid ult tracking, that is definitely going to be a “nono” territory as well.
Yeah, that’s definitely against ToS. Would uninstall it before you get banned.
Just buy a bunch of skins and they will turn a blind eye to anything you do.
Or ban you faster, so you buy them again
It’s not they need to literally request developer implementation for it to even function which overwolf has obviously gotten. I have access to overwolf dev tools so I wonder if they’re actually revealing hero swaps before the timer finishes. The app states that they won’t be revealed before the 15s delay, but who knows if this was manually added into their app while the api instantly reveals.
Counterwatch never reveals any information that is not available through the game. For instance, you will not be notified of hero swaps before the enemy heroes are shown on the scoreboard after the new 15 second delay.
Automation is simply not allowed if it is not provided by the game itself.
You still get the advantage of knowing when switch happens without having to check.
Automation is clearly referring to aim and other ingame actions/inputs like scripts. Are they just going to give access to api info on such things to not allow developers to utilize them? I’m checking overwolf and I clearly see the ability to see scoreboard info was added pretty recently so it’s not like this is something the devs forgot exists.
Whether or not it’s giving you access to information you wouldnt normally have access to isn’t really the relevant detail here. The software is providing an automated way to notify you about information, and thus aiding you in a way to give you an advantage. This is literally the exact type of thing that visor.gg did and was explicitly called out by the devs as being considered a cheat.
Overwolf themselves need to moderate this app and remove it then. I’m not really seeing how scoreboard info could even be used for anything else useful. If anything they can restrict it to only work for the player’s team.
Even if the devs dislike it there is 0 way for them to cleanly ban people abusing this because it’s just the same api info sent to everyone who is using an ow overwolf app. They can barely deal with people hard aimbotting in matches for 100+ games so we’ll see.
Just because a parent piece of software isn’t strictly forbidden doesnt mean that the individual things created with it arent abusing it.
And I strongly suspect it would not be difficult for them to detect individual loaded modules/apps. If they have an agreement with Overwolf that adds various exceptions to the game client for their anticheat, you can certainly bet they have a way to know what it’s doing.
They 100% could do it, but I imagine they have much more pressing matters to deal with than implementing a manual check for an overwolf app. If anything they’ll just do like I suggested and restrict scoreboard info to only the player’s own team or contact overwolf to get the app removed while another 20 pop up.
No. Ult tracking was also something that anyone could do manually but it was forbidden either way because it gave advantage through automation.
Switch tracking makes no difference, not to mention is less predictable than ult tracking until it is too late.
I suspect manually detecting the app is not as hard as you might suspect, but restricting information is also possible.
Nonetheless, I think the point that people are trying to tell you is that you’re trying to tread a very dangerous line, and you sound hesitant to accept that answer. If you have to ask “Is this software considered a cheat” then it almost certainly is. Whether or not you’ll end up getting banned for using it… you’re just gambling.
It’s such a grey line blizzard would be hesitant to outright ban for it. I personally refuse to use the app just for that small chance I don’t want to lose access as an overwolf dev.
Visor incident was like 6 years ago atp and they gave an ingame warning no idea if anyone actually got banned for continued use. People using pursuit also got the warning even though it was literally just post game stats same thing as checking game report that didn’t exist then and they were partnered with OWL/World cup teams.
These past tools also took ingame screenshots to do this instead of an official api so that’s probably why they got banned in the first place.
Gray area probably. I think there was some similar app in the past, that blizzard banned so i’d be wary.
There is nothing gray about it if they have been banning similar tools in the past.
if you are modifying the game in any way, shape or form outside of what came with the game. it is a ban offense.
I’d wipe out your overwatch files, and any files that are tethered to Overwatch from a third party asap.
WIth something like that. They would more than likely see it as modding and cheating.
Thanks for all the replies. I honestly just want an official Blizz answer but I suspect we wont get that here.
The app doesn’t seem to provide anything that isn’t accessible in-game (obv before the whole 15-second swap timer, but the app has a 15 second wait timer implemented right now) I mean I could check tab all day, I don’t think the app is really providing an unfair advantage like visor was.
Looking forward to more discussion on this topic.