Is the original orisa creator holding sum1 at gun point

Dawg…

JUST NERF FORTIFY’S SURVIVABILITY.

The fusion driver overheat thing was the least problematic part about it.

Please for the love of god. You could reduce frustration so that orisa doesn’t need to be a permanent bottom feeder by just making it so that fortify isn’t an “I won’t die” button. PLEASE

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You might have liked different nerfs, but she is still probably not going to be getting played anymore. She can’t be nearly as aggressive using fortify now, and lost more armor. She is more squishy than before, and less threatening.

Original Orisa is nothing like this Warrior Princess Orisa. If her old school creator is holding the gun, Blizzard developers have no fear. They are pushing the barrel of the gun to their heads and telling the OG that they have Fortify IRL and to try it.

:muscle::grimacing:

That’s not the point because the fundamental problem with orisa will keep existing, she will keep being cancer everytime they up and buff this hero because they REFUSE to do the correct thing, in just outright making fortify less frustrating to play against.

As long as fortify keeps this whole “I don’t die” button shtick, she’ll keep being a horrid hero to play against.

Fortify is her signature ability so they want to touch it as little as possible, just like with something like road hog hook

Who cares if Orisa is hard to kill if she’s not dealing damage?

So what kind of nerf do you want to fortify, and what kind of buffs does she get in return?

But she is dealing damage. Fortify doesn’t disable her weapon

It’s true, but Orisa’s gun ordinarily doesn’t have that much ammo before it pops. Fortify used to double your ammo, but now it doesn’t.

That’s a lot less damage, especially if you’re popping fortify when you were already low on ammo.

It’s a pretty killer nerf, Orisa has always been balanced around a large pool of ammo. She won’t be useless or anything, but she’ll definitely be a lot harder to play.

No one cares about your signature ability when your signature ability immediately makes the game unfun to play.

I say the same thing with doom. Move away from rocket punch and buff the rest of his kit. No one cares.

Read above.

It doesn’t matter if she can do damage or not. same thing when she got the movement penalty, it doesn’t matter if she can hunt you down or not, fortify was still cancer. It just makes the overall hero worse in terms of her place in the meta, but that doesn’t change the core problem with fortify.

It’ll still be cancer after this. She’s still dealing damage with fortify lmao, the problem is the fact that she is straight up unkillable, and the best counterplay to this hero is “Shoot everyone else”.

That is by DEFINITION, unengaging.

Idc how you buff her, but fortify does NOT need 4 different defensive effects, at the push of one button.

You do not need:

  • Instant 100 overhealth
  • 45% dmg reduction
  • CC immunity
  • Crit immunity

It’s bloated. You can start to actually buff orisa in different ways and allow her to be better for longer when her core design isn’t an unfun experience as soon as she’s even remotely relevant. Like I told the other person, fortify turns the counterplay to this hero into “Shoot everyone else”. That is by definition an unengaging hero design when you cannot physically engage the hero because she won’t die.

It’s the wrong nerf. This isn’t a discussion about just her strength in the current meta and where she’ll be after this. She’s going to drop, but that’s not the problem. The problem is the CORE problem of fortify will continue to exist, so then when she inevitably gets microbuffed for months again, this entire issue is going to happen like the last 5 TIMES we’ve been through it with this hero.

Fortify is bloated and a problem.

What’s the betting line on her getting more “ammo” in the next patch? I’d like in on that action.

This is a pretty big deal for you isn’t it?

???

Multiple people replied.

I replied to multiple people.

You just gotta respond to the little top section with your name on it, it’s okay.

Well, I believe the original Orisa creator was Geoff Goodman who’s no longer at Blizzard. He’s probably not invested enough in OW’s balance these days to resort to violence.