I pose this question as i’ve had my fair share of arguments stemming from my sr being gold and blah blah blah i don’t know what i’m talking about. But thats the thing, i know how to play this game just don’t grind comp enough.
So my questions is, is mmr more close to your actual skill? I mean people can get boosted to grand masters doesn’t mean they are. I’ve played in 3 tiers and have witnessed the same mistakes across all. If someone in QP flames you for his mighty sr domance over you but the matchmaker put you 2 together are the skills similar?
Not that any of it matters just something i was pondering.
SR is a close approximation of skill with a margin of error x. So, SR + x is about how good you are. As you climb higher, x is closer and closer to 0. For example, a 2500 and a 2800 are pretty damn close in skill, but a 4300 and a 4600 are very very far apart. x starts to become noticeably closer to zero somewhere around master; before that it can be as large as +/-1000. So don’t take skill rating as a 100% perfect estimate of your skill; a 2500 can’t be said to be better than a 2400, but if you’ve been the same SR for a long time, it’s likely that’s about where you stack up against other players.
It’s not perfect but it’s a decent representation of how a person plays with in the team based environment of Overwatch. There is a clear hierarchy of play from tier to tier and also a very clear compression of the gap in skill as you move up in the highest SR ranges. As in a few 100 SR well past 4k is massive vs a few 100SR difference down in say silver.
and proof of all of this is shown in VOD reviews as silvers play like silvers and make silver SR level errors. Golds have positional play that is clearly gold. Etc etc etc etc
Jayne (Overwatch streamer/pro coach) did a whole bunch of team scrim coaching a few weeks ago for example. So a 4.4 average team, a 4k average team etc and in many case it was night and day different in skill, play, team work etc.
well sure it’s meaningless from the point of view of it just being a video game so meh, who cares.
but I find the concept that’s random to be rather confusing when VOD reviews show quite clearly how each tier totally plays different from each other. Including everything from better aim, ULT econ, positional play, team comps and so on as you move up.
It’s not even a subjective like issue either.
You can go to twitch or youtube right now and watch any of the educational sort of VOD reviews and the difference in game play is night and day different. It just doesn’t feel like it when in game yourself but in a VOD review, most of all an objective one when when it’s not yourself playing its’ very, very clear why a person is gold, why a person is masters and so on.
Don’t mind him. He’s just another salty person who thinks they should be higher than they are and thus blames the system for their inability to perform well. Shifting responsibility away from themselves and onto something else makes them feel better.
It’s not even close for most people because they’ll never play enough games with a static 6-stack or random groups to even out the impact of the other 5 teammates.
Lately, I’ve had a few 50/50 sessions. So, according to the mavens here, I’m exactly where I should be. Well, each of those sessions I get deducted a little more SR for losses than I gain for wins. This ends up in a net loss of ~5 SR a session.
Guess that means my performance isn’t that great? If that’s true, then playing better than > 80% of the people my rank on D.Va is just barely below average. Makes perfect sense to me.
Before the peanut gallery starts bellowing about the impact of private profiles, I regularly had this level of performance when all profiles were public
It’s a system made to make people frustrated just enough to keep playing, not to be an accurate representation of your skill. I finally understand why people throw. In a system that’s stacked against the vast majority of players, the only way to reliably influence your destiny is to lose on purpose.
I don’t agree with the throwers, but I understand the reasoning. I prefer the philosophy of: The only way to truly win is not to play.
Right. And i know the difference as i watch much higher streamers play. Tactics, regroup every team fight everytime.
In gold, plat theres always 1 that keeps trickling in. Braindead ult battery. How do you combat that. I do my studying. I love this game therefore i do my homework, how does one move up when your so team reliant?
Eg 700 Sr player placed at 2200 initially. That’s 1500 over his actual skill level. So Sr horribly wrong at that level.
Worst example was a game that I had at 2k. Our Rein and Dva just dived in 1v6 all game, essentially making it a 4v8 as they fed enemy Ult all game. But enemy team was so bad that we still nearly won.
Then in silver I see a Rein that charges in perfectly, with perfect follow up and support from his entire team and they take Hanamura point A in 30 seconds. Then in plat game I see enemy team trickle in all game on Hollywood and we full hold.
I hate to say it but I think yes if I would duell GM players right now I could hold my own against them but would still lose in the long term.
Teams can hold you back though if you are stubborn like me and won’t adapt to suboptimal playstyles for the sake of winning.
I would rather lose and improve than win and feel ashamed of myself.
When you are lvl 1200 and still in silver it’s not because those evil GM smurfs are “annihilating” your MMR. You are not better than your rank shows when you main a DPS with 1.78 elims per life.
This is my experience mostly. Very random as far a skill goes. Now i main support since the start and i don’t want to blame my mates as i’m 1/6 the equation but no amount of heals is gonna stop our kamakazi rein from getting bursted down and melted.
I’m considering swapping roles as tanks/supports is fruitless for me.
Also, how do i open my profile from here. Kinda figure being as i started the discussion its only fair its public.
I was in Diamond from s2 through s4. After dropdown in s5 I was barely playing comp and now I can’t climb past 2700 'cause I just can’t win games no matter how good I’m playing. I can be “on fire” the entire match but lose in the end to some bulls**t. I just not paying attention to my rank because I don’t care anymore.
Which if that was where i was at i’d be alright with. I always play to win. Ana paintball? Going tryhard. Mystery dm? Going tryhard.(which is weird, in mystery dm i’m always top 3. Large hero pool i guess. Def my mode)
I feel like maybe i’ve hit my max as a support main.