Is OW2 considered a pay to win game?

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Do you consider overwatch to be pay to win in modern times? curious to hear others thoughts on this

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No. Pay for convenience, but not pay to win

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You can pay for an instant substantial advantage over others… unless the new hero sucks at release.

So kinda.

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This isn’t a thing in a game like this. Pay for convenience is “you can get places faster in an MMO.”

Having less options than your opponent in a tactical FPS is not a convenience issue. It’s a power issue. And yes, the power issue goes away after a certain amount of play time, but that doesn’t magically make it an issue of “Oh, it’s only an inconvenience that you have less options than your enemy.”

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Nope. Paying gives you access to weaponry other players don’t. That’s a direct advantage. It’s pay to win. Literally all blizzard games are pay to win now.

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Yes. They buff new heroes and throw them behind a pay wall that if you don’t pay you have to grind out. Until you unlock him you can’t play him and if like me you don’t play often or even long enough due to real life then once he’s released onto Ranked and is meta, you can’t play him. That means that you are at a disadvantage. When other’s can spend money or save time to have an advantage that you don’t get that is P2W. They hide behind the fact that you can unlock him for free but fail to say “Oh but in order to do so you have to grind out 10-20+ hours of gameplay before you do and if you just take a break and miss out then you have to play 50+ games to unlock him.” That is 1000000000000000000% P2W. Those that say it isn’t are blizz shills that frankly are the problem with the game and should just be ignored.

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In Quickplay… only for the initial part of the pass.

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Well, in less than a week Mauga will be playable in Comp and I will not be able to play him.

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Maybe I’m just bitter but I wouldn’t be surprised if Blizzard buffed Mauga too much on purpose just so frustrated players buy the battlepass. So from my perspective at least, yes. The game is pay to win.

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Unless you lose. Then it’s the teams fault.

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Except you’ll also have the advantage of practice with the hero before others.

EVENTUALLY it evens out, but that’s not a condition of not being pay to win.

it’s ALWAYS my teams fault. I am perfect.

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Can you play mauga without paying in this very moment? No? Then it is p2w.

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The convenience of an easy win. :triumph:

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I mean, it implies a Win condition, so basically you need to be able to purchase something that anyone NOT paying would not have access to EVER.

Yes it gets tricky when it takes days to unlock but since theres a way to get it for free, technically no. Its not P2W.

Its Pay for Time Saving really.

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Well, I haven’t given blizzard a dime and I have every single character unlocked. So guess that the answer is no.

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I don’t think it’s quite at the point of the typical pay-to-win types of games since new characters can be earnt after a couple of weeks playing.

Having said that…

Making new characters paid-for early access is much too close to pay-to-win territory for my liking and it makes me uncomfortable. We might merely be at the edge of the cliff instead of in free fall but all things considered, I’d rather step away from the edge thankyouverymuch.

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Only in qp though, so it doesn’t matter. In comp, everyone should have Mauga by the time he’s available.

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Yes it is pay to win, you pay for early access to get busted overpowered heros. Sure you can grind out 45 levels in the battlepass but then Blizzard nerfs them before anyone gets the chance

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QP matters.

Not everyone can play enough before a character becomes available in comp either.

You are literally paying for a (usually) stronger option to be available to you.

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OW is hard to put on the spectrum, because P2W is a spectrum. If you only say “yes” or “no”, then its a yes, but so are 90% of other games out there and it loses its meaning.

Because you cant spend money to win/be better than the enemy (for example with more damage, more ult charge or faster movement speed for money), OW is in my eyes not really a P2W game. It all depends on the players and all the free heroes from OW1, are good enough that you can deal with ANY of the new OW2 heroes.

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