Is overwatch failing?

Honestly ever since they released a Reinhard mythic weapon it been nothing but greed and mythic prism almost cost $40 real dollar it would just be better if this game was still paid rather than free cause it made it more expensive and yes I know that skin cost 3000 credit but the credit would be earn if you already have the item you own I wish overwatch wasn’t greedy and I was pve was still active I can’t wait to quit this trash game

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As far as I can tell, it is doing relatively well. The monetization is pretty meh, but that’s most live service games these days.

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You should watch Flatt’s take on Monetization. It’s worse than you think.
https://youtu.be/aGLkDbCQw48?si=bWpLFBDa1vceFfi_&t=2276
Here is the timestamp.
They should hire him to keep the game relevant in marketing lol.

slow stagnating decline…like really slow were you cant let go of it to dive nor revive it to its once healthy state.

Yes, it’s failing and it will die any day now. That’s what has been posted on daily basis over 7 years now.

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What part of F2P casual game is hard to understand ?

The concept is just to log in, play the hero you like in the skin you like, with the title you like.

Most heroes give the player who is playing some kind of fun. Be it a Mercy who is pocketing her Ashe. That is fun for her, it is a casual game with a certain level of skill involved.

Just like how COD is, you don’t go in COD multiplier and think you are going to be competitive. Your team picks, if you have PC or controller players. All of those will be contributing factors.

Unless you want to be competitve in COD warzone, you better learn how to play on controller. You wont be a mouse player and think you are going to be competitive : eg Dr Disrespect, he showed you many times that controller players are going to be dominating.

Exactly like that you dont take COD warzone seriously, that is why you have skins and battle pass and randomly you get this UBER op gun which just destroys anything in the way.

So why do you think OW is the same as OW 1? They got bought by Microsoft and they need them sell battlepasses.

EG: mercy skins, how many mercy players bought the skin ? Do you think they care to push the rank ?

OW2 is a different game, you can log in do you games and go back to World of warcraft or Diablo.

We are in 2024, no one has 10 hours in a day to spend time and climb ranked, be realistic. Most people play 2 hours on school nights and on the weekend try to play comp to get the weapon skin or have fun with friends.

We are not in 2016 any more where gas was selling for .50 cents. Be realistic, even if they bought ow1 6v6 and gave you everything. You would still have very few players who can play 10 to 15 hours a days.

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What part of “Overwatch 1.2 sucks” is hard to understand?

I’d rather have lootboxes attached to the BP with the free coins so newbies can get free skins as we used to. No ability to buy them, just put them in the BP as an extra free reward, especially after level 200 when people get all the titles and there are literally 0 rewards.

Overwatch OG was better, and not just in a “dear god stop the capitalism market” way.
Their CS was better, people weren’t reported left right and center because we’re being told to monitor our own community.
Their ToS wasn’t nearly as subjective.
Alts and smurfs weren’t as rampant because you had to pay for the game.
Bots weren’t nearly as big of a problem (if at all, from what I remember) because of the cost of the game.
The meta wasn’t stagnant, it wasn’t full-on-Counterwatch.
The better tank didn’t win because there were two cooperating, but the better team would win.
The community wasn’t nearly as toxic…

Overwatch 1 was just. Better. In all aspects.

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Yes but we are not in OW1 ?

Microsoft bought it, and their biggest money making baby is Warzone :point_down:

n the latest quarterly report, Activision Blizzard, which is now part of Microsoft, reported significant financial success, particularly driven by the “Call of Duty” franchise, including “Warzone.” The company reported net revenues of $1.92 billion, up from $1.4 billion in the same quarter last year, with digital net revenue rising from $1.09 billion to $1.59 billion. The strong performance was largely attributed to the ongoing popularity of “Call of Duty: Warzone,” which has been a major contributor to the company’s revenue growth​

So Blizzard just wants OW2 to sell battle passes and skins. They are getting creative with artwork and all that. This is nothing but a collectors game, you have a certain title, a certain skin.

That is it, there are many games on blizzard. You can play all of those and play OW2.

They are giving you free points which can be used to buy low tier skins. I did not even buy a battle pass this season and I got 40 prism and tons of points that I can use.

So there is that. If they ever go back to 6v6 it will be behind a paywall, like OW3 with $70 price target something like that, and then they sell battle passes just like COD. Then we will have to buy every year, but seasonal passes.

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Is overwatch failing ?

In terms of population, yes it is (it’s a 2016 game - less players, nothing unusual).

In terms of “commercial” success, it is not (but it seems like Blizzard expected / expects much more).

In terms of users reviews, it has massively failed (because they canceled OW2, lied to the customers to turn OW1 into F2P with a harsh monetization).

When it comes to the future of the franchise, only a real sequel created with passionate artists, with a vision (and that are not pressured by profit) could restore Overwatch’s name.

Funnily enough, the community didn’t ask for OW2 and wanted OW1 to go on for many more years (with its P2P system, content roadmap and making PVE a separate thing), yet we lost it.

The F2P update has been online for less than 2 years and yet people seem already burnt out (mostly bored by the repetitive BPs that start becoming mediocre)… that’s because the content is mostly taken from OW1 with no core content the day of the update in October 2022.

We had no new mechanics, barely any new game mode or anything riveting to make it feel like it was an Overwatch’s expansion (and the thing that was promised, that made use indulge put up with F2P, was canceled at a later time).

The OW team and Blizzard should be grateful a lot of veteran players still stick by, after all they’ve done. Modesty is in order until they come up with a real sequel.

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Very slowly but it can be said about live service in general

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My take is that live service games will be a thing of the past soon.

Unless it’s a strong well-known P2P franchise or a game that introduces a real new concept (never-seen-before mechanics, system and a new type of “fun”), it will be very hard for new live service IPs to survive (past a year or two).

Just look at games such as TheFinals, Xdefiant… The hype over those games turned into dust pretty fast (because those games mostly have no “universe” and the mechanics are not original enough for players to remember those games).

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Just gonna quote myself from a different thread:

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In current times, its not a game that failing but the community!
Dont you read internet?

How many people still play any Unreal game? That’s my lamentation. I miss me some flak cannon.

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Eventually they’ll be right one day, a long time from now. Then you won’t hear the end of it, in the unlikely event that more reasonable people haven’t been driven away by that point.

But Quake was always the better. Never mind Kingpin, Painkiller, Warsow, etc. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

They’re basically the same game, I just prefer reminding people to turn the safety off.

Ofc it is. They are trying to normalize weapon skins and make you pay for effects compared to mythic skins (which also have degraded to a color and a weapon skin)

Steam reviews are funny, cause Overwatch is one of the worst reviewed games of all time yet consistently ranks VERY high on actual playerbase considering how many other platforms it exists on.

As a game? Probably. But as a live service? Last I heard it was still making money.

When it becomes difficult for the average player to get a match in a reasonably timely fashion and the money stops coming in, then you will know it is failing in an overall sense.

I’m still having enough reasonably decent games that I haven’t completely written it off, but the overall experience is definitely not great. What the heck is going on with comp? Why is there so much cheating even in quickplay and arcade?