Moira for healing the whole team? Or are their better HEALERS?
Juno averages more healing than Moira, but Moira wins out on damage. Not that it really matters, since Juno has way more utility so she’s miles ahead.
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Juno has more range and it hitscan as well as a lot of speed to reposition. While her healing is great, it always depends on the team. If the team plays rush or brawl, then Moira is better. Otherwise Juno (if you can aim).
Cant seem to get Juno to work for me… I have less healing and damage than any other support.
To say Juno has more range and that it is hitscan is a little disingenuous. Her range fall off starts at the same spot as moiras cuts off, yes it’s hitscan but also a burst fire so not incredibly reliable (especially for damage), and Moira soft locks.
As far as floor goes Moira is easier and can put out way bigger raw numbers than Juno by a lot. She can double heal, double damage and do both at once she is incredibly versatile for that but has no utility.
Moira has a much better escape and more reliable damage and healing but no utility. So for me Juno is better. I play them both a lot, for instance if my team can’t use the utility or doesn’t and really needs raw power or I’m being the victim of hard dive Moira is the swap but I’d almost always rather start on Juno.
Trying to pick another support to work on … I play Brig really well (Love being supports, support)
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Majority of the Supports are better than Moira because she lack utility.
Juno can do more assists and enable her team better with her kit especially hyper ring to position her teammates better or rescue them.
Moira isn’t the worst support. She’s like a step above the worst.
If you’re having fun with her then use her. But Juno outclasses Moira easily
Juno is averaging 200 more healing / 10 compared to Moira this season. Placing her just a whisker under Mercy.
I think Juno is going to be nerfed for sure.
Yeah it’s pretty good to have 2-3 supports you are really good with. So for me one way I decided on who to go with was from mystery heroes and just going with who I enjoyed most. When you listen to the content creators and the zeitgeist there is this implication that meta matters and some characters you just have to know and blah blah. That’s all not real if you aren’t at the very least top 500 but even then there are plenty of 1 tricks even 1 trick brigs, macetotheface is consistently a top 20 support in the Americas and is a brig otp so you can do it.
That being said wanting to play more of them makes total sense lots of them are fun!
For me it’s Juno (but that’s current I’m sure it will change over time), Zen, Moira, it used to be strictly Moira, for a time it was strictly Illari. There is no right hero to play only you playing a hero correctly. I wouldn’t worry too much about numbers, if you really feel like you are struggling sometimes because brig isn’t giving you enough direct burst healing then sure you may want to include someone else but which someone else doesn’t really matter as long as it’s probably not Lucio? Too much overlap but even then if you really enjoy him you will find ways to get everything you can out of him so it doesn’t really matter.
When it comes to normal play especially solo queue no hero actually lacks the ability to win think of how horrible the game would be if that were true. The noise around the game telling you these things is loud and opinionated but it doesn’t mean it’s correct. Frankly I love being able to go all in on a hero for a while and then when I get bored to all in on another and sometimes I just like having fun options. If you get too deep into what the numbers do and trying to minmax exactly what your hero pool can do and try to cover every scenario you may drive yourself crazy trying to juggle too much.
I would say if you love brig stay brig while you love her, if you are getting a little bored explore others, but explore them don’t try to decide based on stats and numbers there is only pain and boredom that way. I tried so hard to force myself to like Ana or Bap or Kiri and at the end of the day I just didn’t. Let one of the other 20 million supports play one of the ones you don’t like you don’t have to.
If we’re only talking about healing numbers, they can put out comparable numbers. Moira can do it more easily, but Juno’s skill ceiling allows her healing numbers to continue growing with the player’s experience. After some practice, you can be putting out slightly more heals with Juno than Moira.
In terms of who is the better overall support, it’s Juno and it’s not even close. She’s S tier. Also she’s incredibly fun.
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They already nerfed Juno. They’re not gonna do it again.
New here are you?
They will ABSOLUTELY do it again.
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Tracer and Ashe are still doing great after nerfs, and neither one of them got nerfed in season 13 (and probably won’t be nerfed in season 14).
Huh, Juno isn’t Tracer or Ashe, and Blizzard has a LONG history of multi nerfs in a row, in a short timeframe, with the last absolutely cratering a hero.
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TBF doesnt mean she heals more than Moira means people playing Juno heal more than people playing Moira. I can almost double my Juno numbers on Moira but stats are a bad way to look at real impact. Moira has a much more viable DPS first playstyle than Juno so base stats across users she does a little less, but if what you want to be doing is healing Moira certainly can do much more than Juno (you just probably shouldnt).
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THAT is more than fair as a criticism!
That’s a dodge if ever there was one.
Juno’s healing is unconditional
You don’t have to constantly refresh your healing bar, it’s just there
Her healing output is still frankly ridiculous lmfao
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If they are going to nerf her healing they should target her torpedoes or her ult, not her primary fire, that part actually needs some skill and it’s range is pathetic now.
Moira’s only thing was “high” healing and damage numbers and her “survivability”.
We are at the point where some of the new Supports with obviously bloated kits offer higher healing and damage numbers, while also offering tons of utility. Everyone should wonder what is the point of Moira anymore and why was her health nerfed to 225. Because it makes no sense at all.