Seriously, should we even have heroes that can pocket like Mercy? Or should every hero do their own part instead of combining two parts?
I don’t think people get this -
As long as any hero exists who can heal or support, there will be players who pocket their duos. If Mercy got removed it would be a pocket Zen/ Brig/ Kiriko. People just pick the hero best at it, which is Mercy right now, but if she was gone pocketing would still exist.
Like even in Valorant people pocket. In every hero based game I’ve played, people have pocketed.
I mean really any single target support can pocket. Ana and Kiriko can hard pocket as much as Mercy.
Depends how you see it.
Personaly i see the pocket as normal. For example an ana can pocket aswell.
But people tend to go crazy over the dmg boost. Which people forget that a mercy dmg boost a target esentially makes it a 2v1
Yeah when I see people only mention Mercy in pocketing it makes me think they don’t really play support.
I pocket heal people as Mercy, but I like to be well-rounded; I like to pocket all roles.
Only Mercy has the pocket potential that is generally understood as “pocket” in Overwatch. No other hero can zip around and keep up/help as much as Mercy can, or even have near as much impact while pocketing without sacrificing other aspects of their kit. Mercy is basically designed to pocket, while no other support hero is.
Lucio/Kiriko
Zen, plus Brig has literally pocketed Zen in the past as well in the ball + hog meta.
If you’re going to respond to anything in my comment, respond to this please:
Hard pocketing isn’t playing Mercy optimally. It never has been and never will be.
She’s not designed to pocket, she’s just the hero who is best at it. If she was removed, again, she would just be replaced by the next best thing.
Pocketing on Mercy is no different than playing Ana and keeping a much closer eye or being specifically positioned around healing one person in particular.
Depends on what you mean by “pocket”
a lot of people think pocketing is only healing/damaging boosting one person and not care about anyone else and leave the other healer to make up for them only taking care of 1 person only
If you mean this, then no
there is a difference between hard and soft pocket. mercy tends to hard pocket while ana tends to soft pocket. basically. hard pockets in my opinion are bad.
If you want to stay latched onto someone the whole game then it doesn’t matter to me as long as you remember to heal the other teammates if needed.
It doesn’t really work the same.
Ana needs to aim and she will miss sometimes.
Kirko and Ana cannot just ignore people attacking them and still heal at the same time.
Then there is the damage boosting, which is major.
Lucio’s pocket potential is just about zero. You just speed people in and out as required and get as much AoE healing as possible in during poke/fights to charge your ult as quickly as possible.
Kiriko is an offensive support. If you’re pocketing anyone, you’re playing it wrong.
Not to mention neither can rival Mercy’s mobility without losing value elsewhere, which is what I also said.
That’s peel, not pocket. Peeling is required, pocket isn’t.
I didn’t say anything about hard pocketing, stop putting words in my mouth. Especially after the GA nerfs, the best play is to sit on the most valuable blue beam target and only leave them when you’re absolutely needed somewhere else.
As pocketing goes, Mercy is about as close to being designed to do it as you can get. She would not be replaced with another hero, because no other hero is near as good at pocketing as Mercy is, because they have kits too valuable at doing other things. There’s a reason pocketing is associated with Mercy.
Is it okay?
I mean, you’re just using a hero’s kit in the way you feel is best. That might differ from what other people think is the “optimal” way to play, but that doesn’t mean it’s somehow wrong. The way I see it, people who do this are just utilizing abilties that exist in the game. They aren’t doing anything “wrong”. I think there is a point where this logic stops applying though, like for instance a “hammer only” Torb is obviously throwing. Fortunately that line is not that fine, and is usually pretty obvious.
As for whether heroes should even exist with kits that seem to incentive “pocketing” behavior?
Idk just seems like no matter what you do, as long as there are healers, people will use them to specifically “pocket” one person sometimes. As somebody else mentioned, if Mercy didn’t exist people would use something else. Heck, it’s not even that uncommon to see a Lucio and Rein joined at the hip. I don’t really see this as an issue.
This is what “pocketing” is. Pocketing is when she’s only focusing on one person.
Anything else isn’t pocketing.
She would. Every game with any healers have pockets and always have.
Valorant has Sage. Paladins has Rei. Neither of them are remotely near as good at pocketing as Mercy is, yet they still pocket, Rei even pockets more than Mercy does.
Someone will always pocket.
“pocket” =/= zip around and keep up/help as much as you can
yep
Err, no, it is a War Crime and punishable by Giving Blizzard your Wallet.
Pocketing is always going to exist in some form as it’s just a playstyle and all Supports can do it to some degree. and will throughout matches.
However, with Mercy it’s disproportionately by far her strongest play-style and her impact is overly reliant on it. It’s not that she shouldn’t be able to do it at all, but it’s unfun and unhealthy having the vast majority of her power consecrated in pocketing.
No, pocketing is bad. Always was and always will be. No matter who (mercy players) tells you differently.