Is Dva too strong

What does she lack?
she has mobility
she has Dmg
she has armor and HP
She has the best defensive ability in the game
And she has a great zoning ult

ig maybe she can’t do anything about beams but she has armor and mobility, but didn’t they give her passive a against beams specifically

She is still very strong and will dominate ranks now that horse lady nerfed.

Blizzard won’t nerf the matrix as per usual.

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Any sort of range?

Meh, it’s a solid second life but a pretty poor zoning Ult.

She’s strong though, no doubt.

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She’s still pretty strong but I’m fine where she is at currently. I don’t think DVA should ever be a must pick hero the way she’s designed just a strong option on maps where she excels.

Beam resistance to not be free pick against zarya, symm and mei

Only effective at close ranges

That can get deleted instantly cause of the massive hitboxes and critbox

Shields are literally better

That will get you killed more times than you getting kills with

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What pickrate order would you prefer for Tanks?

TANK PICKRATE:PC, COMP, GRANDMASTERS - LAST 30 DAYS

  1. :small_orange_diamond:D.Va
  2. :small_orange_diamond:Reinhardt
  3. :small_orange_diamond:Zarya
  4. :small_orange_diamond:Roadhog
  5. :small_orange_diamond:Orisa
  6. :small_orange_diamond:Doomfist
  7. :small_orange_diamond:Junker Queen
  8. :small_orange_diamond:Winston
  9. :small_orange_diamond:Sigma
  10. :small_orange_diamond:Wrecking Ball
  11. :small_orange_diamond:Ramattra
  12. :small_orange_diamond:Mauga

Lets not forget a centermass crit box. There is no extra risk of missing when going for headshots on her unlike every other hero in the game.

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Beam damage is the only thing keeping her somewhat in check but barely since there’s only like 4 beam heroes and they all have no range so she can just choose not to fight them.
Any beam resistance would break her worse.

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So the counter would be pick beam heros and stick together so she doesnt have a choice

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“Yeah let me just not contest the objective to avoid all the beam heroes stacking in there, oops looks like we c9ed, doesn’t matter at least zarya didnt killed me”

See how stupid that argument of just fly away sounds?

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You make it sound like D.va is the only hero on her team vs 5 enemies.
While Zarya is failing to chase down the D.va, her widow is killing them. Because wow a bunch of short range beam heroes. I’m pretty sure beam heroes are weak to long distance

To be fair how well can a team hold or contest a point when down a tank?

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Still your team is in a 4v5 cause dva cant do anything near beams cause she gets melted

Try again

Got ahead of yourself partner

Well she got mobilty to make upnfor the range, doesn’t matter if the person is far away if you can just fly to them.

although I did think of a weakness which is melee. but realistically only 4 character have that and 3 tanks besides venture. winn counts do because his beam ignores armor, for some reason.

Actually this is something i noticed with a lot of annoying characters like Widow and Dva. their balest counters are tanks, but thx to 5v5 only one person on your team will be able to counter em and if they choose not to then there’s nothing you can do about it

Except the counter to that, is that dva has a team herself… and most of the beam heroes are gargantuan poo compared to the heroes dva’s team can select to completely overrule any sort of counterswapping from the enemy team.

At best you’re doing what counterswapping does to every tank regardless, you make it feel boring to play for the dva but she’s still going to be able to do her job IF her team is competent enough like your team is, in going 4 beam heroes and sticking together.

That’s why the “just go beams” argument has never worked… every beam hero except for zarya, sucks. Mei’s “beam” isn’t a good enough damage source to worry dva, sym is poo, moira is poo, I can’t even remember anyone else if they even exist.

She’s still a bit too strong I think. She erases dive targets too easily at low risk to herself. The projectile size increase was huge for her. The matrix nerf was a good start, but I think it should be more risky for her to dive deep.

Yeah but didn’t tanks get a buff that straight up made that 25% less effective and that’s ignoring the armor which reduces it even more and the characters who would want to land crits, gets pounced on by dva

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Using RQ MH as my test-bed, because there is no counter-picking, and DVa is top tank there. Hardest to kill and most likely to survive the entire round/game without a death. Only if the other team gets lucky with beam heroes can she be weak.

With the rng it’s not that likely and I have quite a few games where I don’t die once I get lucky and get DVa.

I love RQ MH for seeing which tanks are strongest when you can’t actively counter them. Queen is a beast at the moment, and DVa is one of the few tanks that can shut her down, especially if there is high-ground.

Well, if it wasn’t D.va being the top Tank then it would be some other Tank.

So I don’t know how “This Tank players the top” implies they need nerfs.

Unless it’s just an ulterior motive thing.