Ill get to the point… I feel that OW remains economically relevant by people that can’t get out of elo hell. I can honestly say that before this year I was a total scrub that only played a few times a month. And that its OK, you can’t get better like that. But right now I have played season 9-10 daily, have made my due diligence in practicing aim, roles, strats, etc. And so I have gotten better, not at the point of calling myself a plat or even a gold player, but rather a convincing silver.
But I can’t get out of bronze no matter how good I get. I can go head to head with friends that are playing gold-plat in custom games, but I cant raise my SR because it seems that this game loves smurfing and/or players that sabotage the game because they leave or simply don’t do their diligence to learn their craft. And because I can’t party with people with 1k rating higher than me, that also leaves me out of playing with friends for a common purpose.
Yesterday alone I went from 800 to 560 SR, and that leads me to my topic. It seems to me that Blizzard created a situation were the only real way to get out of those low rankings is either become (or pay) or play with prodigies so one can win every game (knowing that losing 1 game is enough to void the progress of 3 games). Or, just get another account and start fresh with this new found knowledge. And this is just absurd.
I’m a loyal Blizzard player, WoW, D3, HotS, and now OW. ALL those other games have rankings and some have part in the competitive Blizzard scene. But none of them feel as hard to raise your rank as OW! I get the averaging of ranks season after season (although I’m not in favor and to me is mostly the issue of not getting out and bettering yourself as a player) this is not the first game that use it. But I can’t join my friends nor they can’t help me IN GENERAL? That’s one of the reason why smurfing happens and why I and many others have to basically create a new account in order to keep progressing through the ranks.
But after reading this forum enough to see that some of this issues have persisted through the seasons… that’s what lead me to believe that its just their business model and not some patching “issues”.
PS. This is mostly a cathartic observational “rant”
Don’t be all wisea#$ and write about how this game is team-based bla bla ,
which is BS. If there are no rules or as some pointed out role specific
selection this is basically a FFA arena with objectives.
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I have accounts in gold and silver but I have been in bronze for a long time so I understand what you mean. Bronze can be hard to get out of because some of players make mistakes that high ranked players would never make or just simply bad. I know first hand that there are many good serious players in bronze but they are being dragged down by the bad ones which is why it is so hard to climb out of bronze. What I did was I tried to take advantage of people’s mistakes and be flexible to switch to counter the enemy. I also switch to high damage characters. Eg after switching to zen, suddenly everything seemed so easy in gold and silver. Like you, I want to keep improving my aim as high ranked players are very accurate. Getting a second account may initially get you to a higher rank but eventually the system will put you back where you really belongs. A friend that I started off in bronze with always said that he was so bad that most of his games were losses. Now he is in high diamond. So just keep grinding. We will both get there!
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Don’t listen to anyone else, I know the exact reason why you’re still in Bronze which is you don’t play DPS.
Despite what everyone says maining a DPS character is the ONLY way to consistently climb in lower elo, you just can’t rely on team reliant characters like Supports/Tanks so I highly recommend maining 1 DPS hero, any hitscan, Junkrat,Hanzo or Genji and climb out of Bronze. You have to remember that if you personally think you’re better than Bronze and if you really are, the DPS in Bronze is MOST LIKELY still at a Bronze level. That means that if you’re a plat level support you’re supporting Bronze level DPS which is the equivalent of someone who doesn’t own a Driver’s license and being really bad at Driving owning a nice BMW sports car, it just isn’t any different from the other team.
Yes, people are gonna go say that my advice is wrong but I’m telling you it isn’t. While it is possible to climb with SOME supports and Tanks, it’s just a crap ton easier to climb out with a DPS character.
EDIT: In Lower Elo Junkrat is by far the best DPS hero to learn, he takes about 10 hours to be competent at him and he also doesn’t require good aim/tracking which would take a longer time to master. The only problem with him is that above plat he becomes much less viable which is when you can start playing support/tank and start climbing abit more.
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I know more or less where I belong since season 9 I ranked 1115 I think, and I’ve only gotten better. Like I said I know I’m not even a gold, but bronze gets depressing after a while when you just cant crawl out.
You are 100% correct. DPS have the most impact on the match independent of their team. Supports can only enable your tanks/dps to do their job. Main tanks provide space and protection so dps and supports can do their jobs.
Notice a theme, other roles support dps. So, if your dps is weak, then supporting them does little to help you win. Definitely getting good with a dps will help. Barring that, being good at an off-tank like D.Va or Hog can fill a dps role to some degree.
Since you won’t be able to prevent your teammates from playing poorly, you have to make sure you don’t play poorly. Once you’ve done that, you have to punish your opponents poor play and/or mitigate your teammates mistakes.
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Sadly your’re not the first one to point this out. To my mistake ( I guess) I played mostly tanks in order to at least lead the offensive. But that only gets you so far. Ill just destroy this account practicing a hit scan and see where that takes me.
Totally this.
Also PBSR punishes supports and tanks. It’s far easier to gain SR with DPS than support.
I myself climbed from 1700 to 2350 with Torbjorn in about 10 hours. This was after 30 hours stuck at 1700 with Mercy (Despite 60% win rate. Cheers PBSR system…)
Yeah … I guess I went the wrong path. To my defense I think I’ve become a compentent Rein. Another season lost then, having to rewire my brain for dps.
Thx for the quick responses btw, much appreciated
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Rein is a pretty bad tank to climb with in Bronze because his job is to give space to people so they can help sustain the space, if they can’t sustain the space you give them because they aren’t good at their role, the best Rein in the game still can’t do anything.
The same thing applies to most main healers like Mercy,Moira and to an extent Ana. Even Orisa is a better main tank to climb with because you can actually contribute while claiming space and have abit of independence but Rein is just a completely dependent character on your team.
Well I know that if I play your account I will blast out of bronze in one evening. So I do not quite understand when people pretend the game holds them back.
For the record I know because I’ve helped a friend “stuck in gold” because of everything but himself. I’ve playd his account 2 hours and ended plat…
Taking back his account he went right back to gold. He has understand now thought, has made the adjustment and is now legit plat.
Anyone tried using Moira to climb? Given her ability to deal high damage and heal, it would seem that she is a good one to use but the stats don’t really measure up. Her win rates are mediocre.
No, second account isn’t the only way. You can also get on a DPS hero and destroy everyone.
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She does the lowest damage in the game, has no utility, and has short range healing. I would not consider her especially great at the lower ranks, she’s just a crutch for surviving flankers, at least at the ranks people think she can “carry.”
At the lowest ranks (bronze-low gold) the way to climb is to get better at the basics: Don’t run in straight lines, learn better footwork when under fire, get better aim, don’t tilt, and regroup or at least don’t feed between team fights.
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She has the 2nd highest average damage amongts supports, bested only by Zenyatta. And i gotta add, this doesnt say much about her possible damage output since most players use her with “healbot” mindset, thus having low dmg averages. From my rich personal experience (way over hundred hours in few seaons, mostly in high diamond and masters) having gold dmg is “okay” on her untill you hit at least master, and is close to “normal” anywhere lower than that.
Her greatest utility is the ability to survive almost anything, including most of ultimates, while being able to 1v1 most of the heroes in the game AND do decent healing. She’s great for climbing, if you can play her well enough, and fits in almost every team comp. But that brings us to the next point - almost anything is good for climbing if you play well enough. There are some other bonuses that start kicking on from mid master, but are irrelevant to lower tiers.
As for OP, dont take it as offence, but there are no “good” players stuck in bronze, and understanding this simple fact will be your first step to rank out of it. Its possible to be stuck like 1 tier under your own, especially in plat, but nothing ever keeps any decent player from escaping bronze in couple of days.
Record your games. Think about your deaths. Look at your stats and compare them to silver/gold tier averages to find areas you are lacking at.
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If you’re hardstuck Bronze, silver, or gold you’re pretty much there for a good reason.
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You’re a dps main? Kinda reinforces our point.
The lower SR and less coordinated your team is, the harder it is to support or tank for them. But killing bad players is super easy…
Regarding climbing with Orisa. I played her competently at 2300. But win rate tanked down to 1700 as I didn’t get the heals and almost without fail half my team would run ahead of my barriers to die as they madly over extended.
You can’t out heal or out tank stupid. But you can out kill it.
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Simple answer, if you play the new account like the old account, no.
You’ll have to take the time to learn to play differently. Pretty much concentrate on no deaths.
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That’s a no from me. I could hard carry my way out of bronze with any non-mercy/lucio hero on the cast (not because they have no carry potential but because I’m bad at them).
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I want an account in bronze so that I can understand.
