I’ve read all over this forum that six stacking is bad, better to solo, or duo, or 3/4 stack. Why is that? I have put together a 6 stack of friends that have played together for a couple seasons now (but never a full 6 stack) and I’m curious as to if/why this is a bad thing? I’m kinda looking at Season 10 as the season where I stop counting the SR points, and just play the game with a full stack for fun, and to win (hopefully). Just curious what this means from an MMR/SR point.
6-stacking is extremely difficult. If match maker can’t find another full 6 for you to play against, it will pad the other team with extremely high MMR solo queue players. Check out Freedo’s coverage on this subject on YourOverwatch YouTube channel. I believe Sty covers this as well.
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6 stacking is my favorite way to play the game. The downside is that the match maker looks for another six stack, and if it can’t find one, it matches you with smaller groups of players who are individually better than your team’s average player.
TL;DR weird balancing
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Other aspect to consider is it takes time to build trust/synergy with the players your playing with. If it’s some ragtag group of 6 people that you just threw together without considering strengths/weaknesses then your probably going to have a bad time. If you’ve been playing with these same 6 people and know the strengths/weaknesses of every player and have proper team comp then you will likely be very successful.
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Because you will play much harder games than you should.
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Think of it this way, to climb you must be able to perfom better than other players in your rank and therefore win more games, if you bring 5 people that you are not 100% sure are going to perform better than average than you risk not winning games you would have in soloQ.
Thanks for the feedback, so basically we have to “git gudd” lol. We work pretty well together, and want to improve positioning, flexing to counter, etc. It just feels safer knowing noone on your team is gonna rage quit, troll, or disconnect. Solo queue drives me insane with the no mics, or toxic mics, trolls, throwers etc. I think I would rather play against a higher rated team and have a decent game than a bad overall experience due to randoms. Again, thanks for all the feedback, I’ll look up those videos you mentioned, I’m already a fan of Freedo and Sty.
You’ll get more variance in 6-stack opposition, but ultimately the matchmaker should statistically provide fair matches and adjust SR gain/loss appropriately when it can’t. During off-hours or at very high ranks you’ll encounter insanity from time to time.
Ultimately: play with friends. Blizzard feels that is the ultimate way to play, and were initially baffled that solo-queue is so popular. That assumption blizzard made was why they were unprepared for the “one-trick” problem (if you consider it one).
I think it’s a good idea, it worked very well for me
Basically. It’s definitely the Platonic ideal of playing the game, but my average match is noticeably more difficult when I play with 5 of my friends vs 2 or even 3 of them. It can be totally worth it though to not have to worry about who you’re playing with.
Just make sure all six are in their strong roles. If it’s just a rag tag group spread over 800 SR you’ll have a rough time, as you’ll be going against stacks that are coordinated, or smaller stacks that are straight up better.
I do better in solo queue.
But I have a friend who finds teams on an OW discord where everyone joins based on their role/SR (so not just a group of friends), and he jumped two tiers.
I actually climbed out of Bronze to Silver and then Gold by playing with friends. Its a slow process but by playing against better players you’ll improve a lot.
Never 6 stack with rando’s, it has to be people you played with before, all know each other and have team cohesion together. The matchmaker doesn’t recognise this so it will match 6 guys who just won and grouped with a try hard 5 boosting their friends who all know what they are doing.
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One night I 6-stacked with a group of friends. We only played ~6 games and our ranks from what I remember ranged from high silver to mid plat. We lost all of them because our co-ordination wasn’t good enough to compete with the simply more skilled opposing solo q players. That night is actually responsible for my lowest SR I’ve ever reached in Overwatch.
If you are especially co-ordinated you’ll probably be okay, but other than that the fact the stacking gives you an instant advantage is a myth, outside maybe duo qs.
That’s what I was thinking. Playing against better players would in theory, make you better. We all have had those steamroll matches, and that’s no fun on either side.
its not bad, its the way the game is meant to be played, solo queue is literally luck whether you get retards or not
Six stacking is the way to go if you are all accurately rated and can work together well. I went on a 9-1 tear in a six stack.
The pros outweigh the cons.
this guy revives a year old post lmao No but six stacking in ranked is pretty stupid in my opinion. If you want to play organized overwatch go scrim, ranked is not the place. Theres a reason you can only duo and solo queue in GM.