So stream sniping is okay if i’m not obviously throwing?
Stream sniping is fine if you’re not throwing, definitely. I’ve stream sniped JakeOCE a few times because he’s good and I want a high quality OCE match.
Stream sniping IS NOT throwing a streamers game intentionally. Stream sniping is just TRYING TO GET INTO THE SAME GAME as the streamer. As long as you play like you normally would then it’s fine.
This does not sound like a reportable offense (although it is a bit of a silly move).
When someone locks in as a character that someone else wants then refuses to swap it is not reportable, it says in the Gameplay Sabotage category:
Gameplay Sabotage IS NOT … an unwillingness to switch heroes.
They have picked a hero and are now unwilling to swap off that hero, it is not gameplay sabotage UNLESS they then try to simply feed,etc. IF they pick the hero and attempt to play them correctly then its not reportable.
If a player is using a character that a one-trick player mains and then the one trick player refuses to select a character then this one trick player is reportable for inactivity.
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That’s a stretch that is not actually applicable, because of multiple precedents and comments from Blizzard themselves.
One-tricking is not bannable by itself. You cannot be actioned against for solely playing one hero. That is a separate behavior that Blizzard has outright said in interviews.
It is not the same as the behavior of griefing another teammate from being able to pick the hero they want to play because you want to be a jerk.
These are unequivocal. I can’t explain how different they are, any more than I already have.
You are not a victim if you one trick.
One tricking is a decision you make. If someone else picks your hero, that doesn’t inherently mean they are doing so to sabotage you. Could it be? Sure, but you have no reason unless given one to assume that.
Going “woe is me the one trick” because someone took your hero doesn’t validate or justify a damn thing. It just means you were unable to play your hero of comfort, now it’s on you to perform in that situation. Just like it’s on the other 5 people in your team to perform in a situation where you have a one trick that literally can not do their job outside of that one specific hero.
The afflictions you are crying about are the very same many feel when confronted by a one trick. The self centered excuses and blatant hypocrisy is not enough to dig yourself out of that hole.
Just gotta accept it. Like what all people who do not one trick have to do. The same thing you ask of other people, you must do. What a concept.
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So if i stream snipe and i know it triggers the hell out of them if someoe plays Symmetra and i exclusively play Symm just when i team up with them, even though i’m “kinda trying” but have actually no time on Symm otherwise and play something different when i end up on the other team, then thats okay?
It’s as much of a stretch as what you’re saying as well, it’s actually less. Taking a one tricks character only affects the one trick, but a one trick affects the whole team.
and they’re not different. they both fall under “unwillingness to swap hero” which isn’t bannable. Nowhere in the rules does it specifically SINGLE OUT either TAKING someone else hero OR BEING a one trick.
well no, you’re playing to trigger and get a reaction out of them. That’s harassment.
One-tricking is irrelevant to the conversation.
It was a mistake to ever mention one-tricking in the title, to assume that these forums would be courteous/literate enough to understand it was an example used to paint the scenario.
It can literally be anyone, anywhere.
There we go, using hero picks to intentionally trigger teammates is griefing and is a reportable offense.
Then the same principles apply.
So long as the person is not overtly throwing/griefing/etc/etc, you have no right to determine what they should play, or report them for what you feel they shouldn’t play.
Now we can get into the details and discuss the ethics and morality of it, but that really doesn’t mean s**t does it? It simply is what it is.
except literally anyone else would not cry about it and just play someone else, cause the person is just choosing who they want to play. and everyone else except one tricks are competent enough to play someone else
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Yep it is, but taking someones hero if you’re trying isn’t.
But if you take someones hero just for the sake so they cant have them is intentionally griefing that teammate. Only issue is providing evidence of your malicious intent, but if proven its a reportable offense.
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Yeah I see your point, I guess the only difference between taking a one tricks hero cause you know they want to play it and then stream sniping and playing a hero to trigger the streamer is that it’s a lot easier to see the malicious intent of the stream sniper.
The person who just takes it off a one trick can just use the same argument that one tricks use, that they just want to play the hero so it’s more difficult to actually prove malicious intent.
Edit: The stream sniper goes out of their way to ruin a game so it’s easy to see
Great we can agree on this.
Wait, so if I have the same stats and playtime as a Sym OTP and they take her after the first round before I can and then they leave comms and won’t switch off or respond to me–I get to report them?
That’s what you’re saying, right?
They’re purposefully taking away a hero I have the credentials to play and had the intention of playing all game despite knowing that would impact my game experience and overall gameplay. So what you’re saying is one tricks are a reportable offense as long as I have equal or better stats on said character because by taking the character I wanted to play from me, they are sabotaging my gameplay. Got it.
Or…does your twisted logic not apply to one tricks? Are they special and exempt? 
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Malicious intent is basically report in it’s own. Abusive, toxic, etc. You can make a string of arguments.
I main Tracer. People can and have often taken Tracer from me. I simply play another hero at this point, however if all I did was one trick Tracer, then what do I do? Even if the other person was doing it in a way I could perceive as spiteful, I still have to acknowledge they may want to play the hero, they may think they could do a better job than I did, they managed to lock the hero before I did, etc, etc.
Even if they said “Hey Quest %#^@ you, you’re trash at Tracer let me show you how it’s done” I won’t care. Can’t say the same for other people though.
Regardless, the principles apply. If you will advocate your right to play any hero at any time regardless of the circumstances, then you must acknowledge everyone else’s ability to do so.
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It’s not reportable and shouldn’t be but you are likely throwing your own game if you don’t preform exceptional on said hero.
No because you wouldnt play Symm to lock someone else out, but because you actually want to play the hero and think you can perform great on them.