Balancing two tanks is litterally impossible. Why not make a specific off tank role, where heroes like Venture or Mei can fill?
I get the idea, so since DPS is always bottlenecked, we separate them like Defense and Offense heroes.
Basically! Torb would be a Defense hero and get his armor pack back, genji an Offense hero.
So the individual Tank eats even more fire and with heroes like Mei does so while being locked away from their team…
Tank is already miserable now, having them deal with more utility / damage to even maintain their existence will not make it any more fun.
No.
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Increasing the number of queues does not sound like the greatest idea. OW is already struggling with 3 queues.
What you are describing is more of a 1-3-2, which can be a good format in terms of queue times. However, it needs proper balancing and reworks.
The developers said that they tried 1-3-2 in the past and it did not work for them, but I am 100% sure they did not balance things well.
They probably made some buffs and nerfs and called it a day.
Such drastic format changes require drastic reworks to all roles, especially tank and support.
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The number one reason for not going with 1v1v2v2 is it sounds like a parody of overengineered solutions.
Literally the exact opposite. What? Play an RPG once in a while. The role of the Off tank is to peel at key moments to negate damage for the main tank.
roleq - the crutch 
5v5 - the crutch
dps passive - the crutch
off tank role - more crutches to the world of crutches !
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So is this a new role entirely or is this the same as a 6v6 but three dps, two support, and 1 tank?
Sounds weird.
Also splitting up the rostrr for dps might still have some downsides as the offensive heros will clearly overpopulate everything else.
That’s why dps play dps. To make plays, not to babysit a point even if that’s a legit way to play, it’s still less popular then be it a headshot spamming Hanzo, genji, Widow, etc.
Didn’t know Overwatch became an RPG.
Surely another format change will suddenly cause drastic changes to how characters have been played across two different formats by now.
Then give the off tank role the playmaker abilities. Imagine Blizzard but, you know, not crap, so it takes half the time to freeze, and doesnt need a mie left click, etc. etc Cut their DPS if needed to balance.
So you mean me on my original Winston and WBall?
Well not my original WBall because I pnly started playing him in the 5v5 fotmat, but REGARDLESS!
Technically giving my role back and letting me be a carry again?
I’d be down but I can also understand how that would upset supports and dps players. I literally hunted them as an off tank player. And dueling a tank especially thr state they are in now is no way fun or engaging.
So as much as I want to say yes, I cannot honestly give that a pass because I know it will crrate issues. Good idra though, and I’m down for it. Just not sure if other players would be fine with it.
No. make it so offtanks have NO MOBILITY ABILITY’S,. Ball is a Main Tank. Doom is MT. They can never be OT. OT will only ever be balanced around ANY MT, so no mobile kits. etc. etc.
Basically, their one and only job is to react to and counter ultimates.
Oh God WHHHHT!!!AAAAAAAAAAHHH!!!@
And people wonder why the forums don’t get listened to…
Having to deal with Venture plus Tracer plus Sombra sounds like a one-way ticket to making support another bottleneck to me. I haven’t forgotten about tri-flanker from the 132 experimental.
Do people automatically think that there would be zero rebalancing when they hear new ideas such as this?
No, but they might think that there are problems with ideas like this that can’t be solved practically through rebalancing.
Venture grants overshield to allies instead of personal shield. Boom. rebalanced.
That doesn’t really change tri-flanker because then Venture can make it harder to kill Tracer and Genji/Sombra/whoever while they’re diving.