Innocent until proven guilty

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 I' am not jumping onto any trains until this goes to the courts. So I for one am not quitting until the evidence is provided in court, and we hear a verdict. I hope you all do the same.
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It’s still damning evidence if your state govt finds all this after a 2 year investigation.

But yes, until it’s settled in court, everything is technically “alleged”

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I mean, if the state government is involved, there’s probably legit evidence. Almost certainly, bad stuff happened.

That said, the messy details get into how HR reacted when these sorts of details were brought to their attention.

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I am not a court room, i can decide now. the evidence is clear and current employees are talking about it too

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If you’d done literally any research you’d know you can already read the evidence; Asmongold has a video where he reads the accounts, and they are absolutely disgusting. If you really knew this, I doubt you’d be here trying to go ‘innocent until proven guilty!’ like your white knighting a corporation is something laudible.

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M8, the government only sues you when they know they have a slam dunk case.

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so 3 years of women testimonies is not enough. i see

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The innocent until proven mindset is just a standard everyone should practice, it has nothing to do with specifically defending someone

You can have your doubts and opinions on the matter, but final decisions should be saved for the verdict.

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Nah, going to the court is just a formality here. The evidence is there. I can, and many already have, formed their opinion from that. This isn’t a “he said-she said” thing. This is the government conclusion after a 2 year long internal investigation with several (around 40 so far) witness statements.

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Listen I don’t believe everything I read on the internet. I want to wait till it goes to the proper legal channels. How many times have fake rape charges sent innocent people to jail? Not saying that is what’s going on here. It most likely isn’t the case, but I will let the professionals dig through the evidence, instead of letting content creators, and forums make a decision for me.

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No… it isn’t. Personal testimony is one of the least reliable forms of evidence. People can make things up, they can misunderstand, they can misremember.

I’m not defending Blizzard here. After 2 years of investigation the government deciding to sue makes the think it’s most likely that they have a strong case against ActiBlizz, because they wouldn’t be trying to sue otherwise. But no, employees giving testimonies is not evidence, otherwise they would have been sued before they put in 2 years of thorough investigations.

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Still a mindset you should practice, it’s healthy for everyone

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By the power vested in me by all the things, i pronounce Blizzard middled.

also come see my band play at Paris. We the ones playing on Attack spawn.

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A woman was driven to the point of suiciding because of this.

So I’m just going to go with guilty. People don’t take their own lives for no reason and certainly not due to fabricated evidence.

It’s not the first time blizz has had a PR disaster regarding their awful workplace environment and it won’t be the last.

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Look, OP,

This isn’t like Mister Rogers suddenly getting a host of women saying he assaulted them. Riot had this disease, as did Ubisoft, and Gearbox, and countless others. There are accounts of people online and interviews about sexual harassment at game studios.

We are allowed to take that information and give Blizzard extra scrutiny, and we are certainly allowed to hold their feet to the fire for being one of many companies who got publicly outed for this, whether or not there is legal decisions rendered.

Take that innocent until proven guilty nonsense and shove it up your keister.

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we are talking about an investigation of 3 years. its not only " a personal testimony"

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We have the evidence now, the court is a formality

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The last group of people I want judging anything is THESE forums lol

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But the evidence has to be validated. Just because someone says something doesn't make it true.
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State regulatory bodies don’t go for the throat like this unless they’re damn well sure of what they’re saying.

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