I can actually tank the punch for my team as a tank, instead of just my entire team getting chuncked.
If doom punches my mercy instead of me he gets pinned instead of me just getting punched with no knockdown trade.
Yeah he can blow up a tank, but so can hog. And they both can be avoided with good positioning.
What do you mean by that? What’s your point?
Huh? You meatshielding for your squishies honestly doesn’t do much unless they’re positioned back really far.
Empowered punch shockwave hits everything behind you as well.
I dont think a hypermobile tank should be able to oneshot.
Especially 5v5 doom.
6v6 doom blows up when out of position and focused.
5v5 doom is just unkillable unless you go full counter.
Regardless i think his oneshot isnt healthy for the game and also his charged punch hitbox is just too big.
Oneshots and burst damage in general is just not fun to play into.
I am saying he’s more annoying to fight now as a tank vs ow1. Where he didn’t have an aoe.
Idk just frustrated at times by how so many characters have been reworked to be more annoying and harder to kill in exchange for being worse at killing.
I mean fair enough but it would be nice if he could have anything else other than AOE punch.
That and his block can just be ugh to fight.
Granted when I stop one tricking Reinhardt, orisa is surprisingly not terrible into him.
Just cancel the block and shove him into lockers.
From the title alone 1shot sucks.
Many people who like Overwatch do not like Valorant and CS:GO. The two styles are completely different. Those games are slow with spikes of action and something happening with fast kills. While Overwatch is littered with fast action of ebbing and flowing.
Getting kills is a longer process you work through as a combination of numbers and positional choices with constant action. With moments happening due to either team work in focus fire or individual mistakes.
You effectively work for the kill.
@charade I agree with you. Only very, very few heroes should have the option of a one-shot, like Widow. She was simply designed that way, as a sniper. But she’s also very easy to counter and dodge if you have at least two brain cells left.
Delete widow and bring back DPS doom.
Loud grunting man I can react to vs. silent cross the map sniper I have to proactively avoid.
I mean sure, but even though I finally get 6v6 and to have fun, it is annoying how much of this game has become characters just not dying because of all the buttons you can retroactively press to avoid death.
At a certain level, cooldowns are your healthbar because you are never going to die while you have them.
People can just react to everything.
I don’t play high-elo, but all widows are actually easy. But if you have no idea how and when to position, then you deserve the headshot 
Lol
Lmfao, even
I play plat 1.
The thing is she kills my team from across the map.
And is the only hero that kill you instantly if you don’t think about her.
I need to be aware of where the widow is the moment I walk out of spawn or I might just instantly die to her.
She can be dead silent with no telegraph. No sound, no visual indicator. She’s nowhere near you even.
And then suddenly half your team is dead right before you jump on her and she just grapples away because I unlike doom she doesn’t use her cooldowns to kill things so she can just run away.
Doom has to loudly grunt across the map until he is near enough to either start charging punch, or do the slam uppercut combo.
Meaning I can just move away from the away he’s about to assault as opposed to being terrified of walking around every Conor until someone has scouted the widow.
You can figure out where she is. She can only fire every few seconds; it’s not like she has a sniper Gatling gun. Then your team will have to react and take appropriate countermeasures.
It takes a second to charge to full. She can one shot 3 people in under 5 seconds.
She can be positions so far back it takes multiple cooldown cycles to even get near her and still be able to one shot you.
Their is a reason widow gets banned on Havana, and circuit.
Dorado too! Had a very unfortunate game on that map.
We won but it was miserable.
Oh wait I have it backwards we banned widow just not freja who is almost as bad.
Yes, but even if she isn’t banned, you should at least know where she could be…
You understand widow has feet and can move and doesn’t just stand in one place right? I can guess where she might be but I do need to scout her out and be wary that she is watching the spawn doors.
by that logic people should just know where the doom is and never get punched.
Don’t forget, Widow is very difficult to play and is only a notable threat at high tier play
Sure, but compared to DF mobility, its ultra laughable.
Also while she ADS, moves slower and she is really easy to hit
Orisa was originally created to counter doomfist. With the javelin rework, she’s even better at it.
Against a good doomfist though, it’s a full time job to keep him off your squishies. And if your dps are not getting picks at that point, it’s gg.
You understand that she can kill you before you know where she is, right?
If i need to peek once to keepmy teammates healed, i’m dead.
I’ve been headshotted while i’m mid ga from cover to cover.
Pixel shots are a thing. Positioning so that you see an enemy between 2 pieces of cover. You kill them and no one knows where she is unless the teammate death pings her. And no one uses death pings.
That’s the flanker/sniper counter, and no one pings upon death to tell the team where the threat is.
It doesn’tmatter if i ping her for my team, because my team keeps walking into her sightlines like lemmings.
There are times when widows are badand oblivious to their surroundings and i can just walk upto them and headshot them in a second as mercy. But those are rarer than you’d think.
And I go off of high tier play because that’s what OW really is. Trash players don’t influence my balance takes