Improving yourself doesn't matter

[ǂŖÏĊĶǂĊ137ǂ-1569]

Hidden MMR mechanism ensures that as you improve, your teammates get worse.

[Pokadotdurr-1934]

As I said I have been climbing with the attitude that I have. I don’t care about players that don’t want to try, they are not going to be able to climb. Yes there are games that turn into losses because you have a team that doesn’t work well together and that happens.

I’m telling you this because attitude is a major factor in climbing. An attitude that the game is not letting you climb accomplishes just that. You should stop being so hung up on the bad players at your rank and focus more on your own performance so you don’t end up as being one of those bad players.

[Paul-14394]

@Garrek-2399

@Paul-14394

By what? An arbitrary single digit percent that is easily nullified by Gambler’s Fallacy

This is not how Gambler’s Fallacy works, it doesn’t “nullify” anything, let alone personal improvement. Keep playing and you will experience freewins because of throwers on the enemy team - and you will experience close games which you can win by getting better than the avarage player on your current rank.

I dislike poor teamwork and communication as much as the next guy, but this doesn’t keep anyone down in the long run.

Also, I receive pretty frequently messages that action was taken against some account I reported.

It nullifies the chance of winning, not improvement. And I’ve clocked in alot of games already (though on an alt account, but even in Diamond and Masters… what the heck? Its like ranks matter less and less per season).

And yeah, I get messages telling me something’s been done about the person I reported. But, to quote myself:

@Paul-14394

@NightRaven-1105969

@Paul-14394

when you said that the Avoid Player feature caps out at 2 and potentially hit 5… holy crap, I have hundreds that I want to avoid

Jeff mentioned that 2 with the possibility to increase it if needed. i don’t think they can really go past 5 because Jeff doesn’t want this to effect queue times.

@Paul-14394

so… I get 220 ping

you must be some kind of god. i can barely play above 50. like its next to impossible for me.

Like I said, when you’ve been living in a country with craptastic internet connection for more than a decade (it was so bad that we were known to have the slowest internet in the world, or atleast second slowest, as well as the most expensive price to performance as well), you learn to lower your standards with ping. Trust me, if you thought I was a god being able to play at this ping, you should meet my other friends… while I tap out at 250 ping (meaning I can’t take it anymore if its at that ping and higher), my other friends even deal with 300 ping if there are no Asian servers for games they like to play.

But I digress… I know Jeff doesn’t want to affect queue times, but I don’t want to find myself being invested again in a game where its competitive mode is not only immensely polluted with what I want to avoid (I know, everyone gets them… I dunno if you can get them as often as us here in Southeast Asia) because the game doesn’t let me “fight back” like in Rainbow Six Siege or CSGO when I have griefers for teammates, it just sucks. And it feels horrible that the system notifies me that the ones I reported have been dealt with, yet as soon as I get into a competitive game, I’m not BSing when I say this, but more than half the time, I get queue’d with one of the people I reported because they were griefing like crazy. So, even I don’t have faith in Blizzard’s report system. And you know that queue pool thing I was talking about? Imagine taking a break for an hour, come back in, queue again, and somehow, despite that even the person you reported for griefing/trolling, is on your team again (one time I even saw them go down to a gold badge… and they still found their way in my game even as I was high plat), its infuriating.

I love this game, but its killing my sanity.

Its just hot garbage… and now I’m feeling it in actual NA servers (because Blizzard thinks its a bright idea to put Southeast Asia in the Americas region [which explains why we get a higher ping on the actual Asia region] and put an Americas region-assigned Singaporean server) when I use my VPN. What the hell?

@Pokadotdurr-1934

As I said I have been climbing with the attitude that I have. I don’t care about players that don’t want to try, they are not going to be able to climb. Yes there are games that turn into losses because you have a team that doesn’t work well together and that happens.

I’m telling you this because attitude is a major factor in climbing. An attitude that the game is not letting you climb accomplishes just that. You should stop being so hung up on the bad players at your rank and focus more on your own performance so you don’t end up as being one of those bad players.

You say that, yet I’m stuck. Its the sheer population of them just polluting the playerbase. Not everyone’s experience is the same, but I do wish my experience with the game isn’t overly dominated by getting queue’s and repeat queue’s with players who want to lose… even if they are in a completely different rank entirely, but end up in my games. I try to not focus, but they seem to just wanna step their game up.

[Sym-11267]

Best time to play Competitive is when kids cannot, before midnight, and not on the weekends.

It sucks because I only play Competitive or Arcade DM. The rare QP matches that you can barely practice in because the other team is in try hard mode.

[Paul-14394]

@Sym-11267

Best time to play Competitive is when kids cannot, before midnight, and not on the weekends.

It sucks because I only play Competitive or Arcade DM. The rare QP matches that you can barely practice in because the other team is in try hard mode.

I play at basically 11pm to 3am weekdays. The problem appears to be that its no longer an age bracket, but more of an age maturity matching the amount of care they give to trying to win.

[Sym-11267]

I’ve tried playing around that time and you will notice as the games are great in the beginning, you’ll start getting the Koreans (that don’t cooperate) into your games in the end. It’s also prime time for people not performing that great because they’re tired. If possible, try switching to a couple hours earlier and ending around 1AM. I felt that after around 1AM, it gets pretty bad. But again, it’s Spring Break. I’d wait until that ends or play on an alt if you have one.

[Paul-14394]

@Sym-11267

I’ve tried playing around that time and you will notice as the games are great in the beginning, you’ll start getting the Koreans (that don’t cooperate) into your games in the end. It’s also prime time for people not performing that great because they’re tired. If possible, try switching to a couple hours earlier and ending around 1AM. I felt that after around 1AM, it gets pretty bad. But again, it’s Spring Break. I’d wait until that ends or play on an alt if you have one.

I’ve been playing at those times at roughly since the start of Season 4. Experience was great, I didn’t care there was a time I was in Gold because I ended up having more teammates who gave a d&&n and try to win than throw the game (a loss I can take, just not when its a loss because someone said “f&&k it, I think its funny when my teammates are mad as heck”). But ever since Season 7, I don’t know anymore. With “Avoid Player” working on teammates in PTR, limited to 2, someone in the forums mentioning it would be raised to 5… come on.

I think what would really help is that I’m pretty sure that for every region, there are “sub-regions” and I’m pretty sure the concurrent player count is atleast in the tens of thousands per “sub-region”, so I’m pretty sure my (both hidden and visible) elo/SR matches with hundreds of others that the server knows I haven’t played with… why not match us with them? Like, spread it out. Maybe that’d help… because alot of the times, the ones I end up getting matched with are players I’ve blocked and reported, alot of them the system said “thank you for reporting this guy” and what not, and even if I was in Diamond and they have a Gold badge (at the time) already (I end up double checking my teammates to see if I blocked them yet or not), it just sucks that they end up being on my team… again… What the hell?