FOR CHRIST SAKE, DO I NEED TO TAP THE SIGN. Having a prepaid cell service =/= you dont have the money to pay for things. It is really that hard of a concept for people to wrap around???
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You do also understand that the MAJORITY of OW players are casual correct??? This competitve intergrity bit isn’t a hill you should die on. Majority of base Overwatch players usually tend to drift towards casual play. You also forget some players main reason for getting OW2 is the PVE, so are they gonna be excluded for the ‘competitive integrity.’ when PVE, QP, and Arcade are catered towards and advertise towards a casual audience.
MAKE IT MAKE SENSE, DAWG
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So what I’m reading here is that my kids, who I play OW with, won’t be able to play with me when OW2 launches because I feel, as their parent, there’s no point in them having phones yet because they’re in middle school.
I bought them Switches for a reason. So I can game with them. Guess we’ll just play Fortnite.
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unfortunately yes, that is the problem. You won’t be able to play with them unless you go out of your way to get them a phone with a post paid plan that meets their requirements.
Who defined “free to play” as a net ZERO total cost to the consumer?
I’m not dancing around anything. They have a reason for this policy. Whether you agree with it or not doesn’t invalidate their business case. There is obviously a reason why certain types of phone numbers hurt their efforts to reduce smurfing. I realize you may not care about smurfs or how certain types of phone numbers open the flood gates for smurfs and alt accounts, but you and people with your situation are not the only consideration here. You’re essentially saying “My situation and my preferences outweighs any other consideration” and I’m sorry but that’s just not the case. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
Even if your 1/3 number is accurate, and I have no reason to believe that it is, they’re still making a business decision to protect and improve the experience of the remaining 2/3 versus lowering the requirements and shouldering ALL players with a diminished experience. Every business is willing to (and often HAS TO) forego some portion of the total consumer base for one reason or another. This is a very basic concept you seem to be unable to grasp.
This line of discussion is stupid and unproductive. Everyone arguing about things like electricity or having a gaming PC/Console are COMPLETELY missing the point.
There’s no valid reason to disallow pre-paid SMS. The only ones I can think of are not incentivizing buying burner phones, but honestly at that point I say let them. If you want to go through enough trouble to buy a burner just to play an alt account in a video game I say more power to you.
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That’s not my argument. Let’s take the movies as an example. Some portion of the audience wants to talk loudly during the movie. If the cinema creates a new policy which turns these people away, I’m sure this disenfranchised group will complain that they’re being alienated, or that it’s not fair. However, the cinema is making the conscious decision to forego that revenue to improve the experience for the majority of moviegoers.
Now, instead of trying to pick this analogy apart and list all the ways gaming isn’t like talking at the movies, grasp the larger point I’m making. A business cannot cater to ALL consumers. You can complain that the 5 star restaurant down the street doesn’t have a budget menu. But they are not catering to you. You are not their target audience. Organizations shift business practices which, yes, leaves some people out in the cold, and yes, you can be upset about it, but that doesn’t mean they’re being “immoral”; it simply means that their new business model can no longer accommodate you. You are no longer a fit for them as a consumer.
You and Blizzard are not friends. They don’t owe you anything. They have no moral obligation to you. Sure, you can dislike it all day long, and I don’t blame you, but this is not a “moral” issue.
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So your argument here is that Blizzard’s policy decision process has nothing to do with a plan or business logic or strategy. They’re implementing a policy that is useless and makes no real difference, and they’re aware of that, but for some reason they simply choose to unnecessarily alienate a fair portion of their consumer base for no real benefit.
This logic checks out.
For anyone who can’t play because of the new SMS requirement, especially if you purchased OW1 I would file a complaint:
https://www.bbb.org/us/ca/irvine/profile/wholesale-video-games/blizzard-entertainment-inc-1126-13050668/complaints
You could also throw one at ftc.gov/complaint under the other category possibly and see if you can get some attention on it at least.
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Sorry ignore this post real fast.
I know, and i understand that most companies will do this, however, that point is invalid considering Blizzard didn’t do this because of the example I gave, so it disproves this and the ideology you are using to counter with your position. Again, Blizzard helped to the “minority” without PC’s to give the D.Va skin to all when they didn’t have to because it wasn’t the “majority” so again, your point is null and void now because they have already done such.
If they didn’t? I’d have nothing to counter with for your stance, but they did, which means it leaves it open for anything to be discussed on the matter of “ALL consumers” You cannot keep throwing this around if they had once catered to the “minority” or players, which ended up being all their consumers playing.
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sms protect paradox, more players more money, less players less money. sms protect means less players.
you see where I’m going, if they see too few players they might do something, but i doubt it.
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This is true now considering it is F2P and we didn’t pay with our own money, so it is their rules now, however, we will attempt because regardless, people are fans and they have a right to state that this is an issue. If it’s not yours, then no point in trying to make reason against such as it was proven Blizz listens when they can. People will do what they must as fans and as their rights as fans who had put a lot of hours into their IP.
Once we get an answer, that will be that. Simple as that. Not hard. If people on here can complain about skins, we have a right as well especially when this involves something as big as purchases with a pack and money.
Also, support and Tech support TOLD us too so there’s that so because they said so we will lol
Well, I think it is. What’s your definition or moral? because it means principles of right and wrong behavior and honestly, that is a matter of perspective no?
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Point being that electricity is an unstated requirement for playing Overwatch. Yes, it’s an over the top example, but the underlying point is that there are costs associated with playing which aren’t directly a part of its “free to play” aspect.
So one can’t make the argument that something that is free to play must have no associated additional costs just because it’s free to play. One has nothing to do with the other. “Free to play” means the game itself – the price tag for the actual game – requires zero out of pocket expense. There are necessarily going to be costs associated with being able to play, and now one of those is a specific SMS requirement.
BINGO! That’s it! That’s the issue there!
They are adding additional costs because if you want to play you NEED to pay a service provider to get the right number which can be anywhere from 30 to 60 dollars or more depending on where you live in order to even get in. You are paying to play or you just can’t. That simple
You ARE paying because you need to fork over money to play the game for a post paid number since pre paids are not allowed. If not, then it would be fine but they are requiring you to change providers if you do not qualify. That is why it is not F2P. F2P is Fortnite, Apex Pokemon Unite. They all can be jumped into without other costs. This game you can’t because you need a post paid number that a lot of people don’t have and cannot acquire unless they change providers which is costly.
Great now that we understand something 90% of people got without explanation can we stop clogging the forum with semantics and unproductive hair splitting?
SMS protect is a good idea. If you don’t have a cell phone at all, this probably isn’t the first issue you’ve run into with 2fa. The real issue is blizzard is locking out LEGITIMATE carriers that just happen to not use the contract model.
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I agree it is. SMS sounds great honestly. However, why they didn’t put it for comp first to test is beyond me? Many people have pre paids, not hard to see factual wise 74 million in the usa alone not including other countires so it is an issue. Most people DO have cellphones, it is the issue that most have a different service, plan, VOIP or were once pre paid to post paid that can’t get in.
Launch will certainly become zero hour bro, when 100,000+ would be players and veterans find out they need to buy a WHOLE SEPERATE phone to play overwatch 2.
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When you put it that simply it really sounds absurd. Because it is. Honestly I think i’m going to try and keep it simple like that from now on. This issue is wholesale bananas.
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this had me laughing for some reason
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