I'm tired of Reaper

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I’ve mained this character for 3 years, and never have I felt so angry at his state. Reaper is an utter trashcan of a character. At least before, i was able to enjoy him. But I cant even have fun playing him anymore. He is so horribly designed and bad.

I never liked reaper for his gameplay(I fell for his character and lore), but I have at least always been able to play him and feel like I’m doing something. But I genuinely feel worthless when I play him now.

His random spread is horrendous. Half the time I’m engaging a squishy at close-medium range, I shoot once, do 145 damage, then do 40 the next and die. It’s hard enough as is to get up close with reaper, and when you do you aren’t even rewarded for it because your gun is a piece of crap.

There are way too many characters that just do reapers job better. Heroes like Ashe and Mccree, who can not only melt up close, but also have way more power at range. Even the nerfed to hell mei can duel well up close and still has good range a d utility.

Wraith form is a pathetic excuse for an escape ability that usually does nothing but delay your death. Reaper, if he does manage to get in close, usually cant kill anything because they have healers jammed up their rear, tries to retreat with wraith, and is bursted down immediately. Even when playing with his team, there is no reason to run reaper over someone like mccree or doomfist, one of which is much stronger, and the other is more consistent and self sufficient.

And death blossom, which was originally the only shining light in a reapers life, is just worthless. Any of the 15’000’000 stuns or boops in this game completely shut it down. Or, better yet, ana just hurls a bionade at you and you just die in ult because your only self defense is your lifesteal.

It doesn’t help that heroes like Ashe, Mccree, Widow, and to a lesser extent hanzo are meta, and have been for 7 plus months.

This post probably comes off as ranty, but honestly it just feels like crap not being able to touch my hero. I feel more significant playing symm or sombra, that should say something.

But I know most people won’t care. I know blizzard definitely doesn’t give a damn about reaper, and most of the community hates him. So just like the sombra, bastion, zen, pharah and symm mains who stand beside me, I guess I’ll retreat into the shadows where I’m inevitably going to be left for the next 2 years.

Cheers, guys.

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I think it’s mostly a design problem, same problem with bastion. Stupidly overpowered in lower ranks, underwhelmingly underpowered in high ranks.

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He needs a rework. With the kit he has its impossible to make him viable without turning him into a pub stomper

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The crazy thing is, reaper really isnt that op in low ranks anymore. Low ranks generally have really bad positioning and awareness, but the one thing they do often have is half decent aim. That alone pretty much kills reaper.

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I’ve always had problems with reaper considering he counters most of my mains but I agree that he could be in a much better state

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yeah, but any buff potentially could make him op in low ranks

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That’s kinda a you and a bad positioning problem. To me, Reaper is an extremely good self sufficient hero. He even helped me climb from 2383 to 3012 and even from gold to diamond I still see high win rates because his cool down management is very easy to abuse. Like I said before you gotta watch out for cc and try to avoid hero’s you stated above. Yes they can shut you down but you can easily out maneuver them and focus on another aspect of their team. I just suggest aim training and that sort of thing because I know for one thing the devs are not going to rework Reaper’s shotguns and it’s spread. Reaper is more of a flank and one man army player and should be played as such (at least I get the most value that way and an easy pick on a high value hero such as a tank). Hope this helps.

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Maybe I should just play him differently. I usually play with my team when I use him.

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What would you suggest be done with Reaper? Realistically speaking that is.

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Honestly, that’s the problem… I don’t know. Like, I really think it’s an everyone else problem, not a reaper problem. I feel as though overall sustain and moreso ranged hitscan is just way too strong.

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Yeah honestly if they see you with your team they can always predict where you’re going to try to go. Use shadowstep as a stay of of sight tool and you can even cancel that dreaded voice line that alerts enemies that you tp by just saying “no” or something before you tp.

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It’s the same for Moira… and they keep nerfing her.

They’re both only good at very low ranks.

they want Moira to be “skillful” and make “plays” according to patch notes… but they reduce her range by 37% and no damage increase

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Lol
teleports
“I think there’s a reaper in our backline.”

NO

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When I started game had quite lot fun with reaper but as I progressed it became hard to play and sometimes it’s just impossible
Like he has lots of issue from
Big hitbox to bad mobility to pathetic range

Hmm maybe it’s because how powerful hitscans are right now he feels even more trash

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Lol yeah just use it as you tp and stay out of sight that really throws them off. Also with DB try to get the squishies or supports as that alone can win a teamfight. Or you could do the risky risky

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It’s not the range they decreased it’s the angle at which you can succ on a target by making you have to be more accurate with succ to get value. Same with orb although it’s not a buff if you throw it more closer and more accurate in say close quarters combat, you can easily finish off a target.

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yes I know… and NO damage increase

Why should Moira have the lowest DPS in the game while requiring much more aim than before but with the same damage?

Don’t you see how unfair that is? 50 DPS a second on a damage ability that takes a full second to do 50 DPS and then they made her Orb so it needs to be like so close to the person

but they claim we can now “flex our skill”

yeah sure am gonna be flexing that kill where I’m still doing 50 damage with a smaller hit box

AND DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON REAPER HE HAS BEEN TRASH FOR SO LONG TOO… until the 50% life steal. Moira and Reaper literally suffer the same, but because a certain youtuber hates her he’s got a crowd following the moira hate brigade to get her trashed

If it was Reaper in Moira’s place, he would get the same treatment.

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People don’t like it when shotguns are meta.

Sorry for your loss of enjoyment. Reaper is fun but eventually you reach a point where everyone is intelligent enough to play around him.

Agreed. When I played experimental I was like “god this feels awful. With a beam this tight, it should do 60-70 damage per second!”

My old Crosshair for Moira was:

  • purple
  • circle and crosshairs
  • thickness 2
  • Crosshair length 25
  • center gap 69 :sunglasses:
  • opacity 70
  • rest doesn’t matter.

This fully shows the live beam’s thickness.

Now I’m gonna have to swap the Crosshair to literally the same as my other precision heroes like Lucio and symmetra:

  • center gap 29
  • Crosshair length 12

This is as small as the beam feels.

Tracer and Genji meta inbound.

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One of my fondest memories belong to a Reaper POTG. I played Reaper just the way he was supposed to be played. Sneaky. I dropped down with my ultimate right on top of the enemy team on the last point in hollywood, on the stage ceiling. I waved at my teammates right before I dropped. It was pretty hilarious. I killed the entire team with my ultimate. Man, I wish I could have saved that POTG. But the replay feature wasn’t a thing yet at that point.

Good memories. During that time people were still experimenting with the game a lot.

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I play tank
I’ve played tank since s5
I love playing tank

I don’t like seeing reaper being trash. I LOVE going against a good reaper. Him and Mei stop full on tank aggression, and make me have to really watch my positioning. I always thought the 50% lifesteal was kinda dumb, but 40 looked fine to me: you just can’t play rein/zar and run into the enemy like low ranks LOVE to do. Hell, part of why I can climb so much in solo queue is the absolute stubbornness to switch off of a comp, especially if people think it’s meta (even though zarya is nowhere near meta).

I want Reaper to get a buff though, 35 to 37% lifesteal should help him a fair bit. 50% makes him meta, so if they don’t want that, then 40 isn’t bad. But they nerfed him from there. 30% is definitely too low though, because it makes him only good in gold or below.

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