I remember when Sym had her lock on (I know Moira doesn’t have lock on) I never really found her fun to play. After her rework she felt more skill based and I started one-tricking her for a good while. I already kinda enjoy playing Moira sometimes despite her being super easy to play. If they make her more skill based too I can’t imagine how much fun she’d be. Will I actually have to aim my damage beam? Will I not have a free escape and have to think about my positioning more? Moira has the potential to be the most fun support, especially for dps players. Can’t wait to see what the devs have in store for her next experimental card 
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Same! As a support player, Moira is often a staple pick the past year in my comp games yet she’s rather…um…boring? Has an extreme lack of enagement? Feels like there’s nothing to master or improve on? Feels kind of…cheesey to play her against people, especially like Genji?
In GM, a lot of us support players have coined a term for when she’s meta: Nail Jail. Because it’s so insanely boring to play her for multiple games. Mercy has to at least work hard to stay alive and get value, Ana and Zen and Bap have to aim, Lucio has to have good movement and CD usage like Mercy. They all feel way more engaging to play.
I love her design and character though, so I hope she gets changed to me more interactive, engaging, and skillful. If not, they just need to nerf the value she outputs to match her skill level.
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As i don’t think skill is aim based at all, I’m not excited. At all.
And I think symms rework made her a worse and more bland hero …overall a generic mess that came from a vending machine of hero creation.
I see no creativity in her rework or any rework since symm 2.0 and I do not look forward to moira’s changes at all.
I think there is so much hand holding in the game I’ve honestly just grown exhausted by it. I much prefer when people are forced to think than press a button for what is on screen.
Imo , there is nothing worse than deciding that Moira was the issue and not the symptom.
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I agree with this 100%.
What is “skillful” and what isn’t is entirely subjective.
I really dislike that one of my favorite heroes is probably going to be gutted because some man-child Doomfist main thinks she takes no skill and rallys his followers to complain about her.
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don’t forget the gengu’s always complaining too. 
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I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I find Sym way more fun and If they challenge your aim a little more as Moira that sounds more fun too.
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I do find it fascinating that the issues that cause reworks almost always…relate to survivability of supports-
Mercy
Brig
Moira
Or its What is often nerfed-
Imm field
Nade
friggin guardian angel
I cant imagine super jump not being the screech topic of the forums in season 1 with current bunny hop and general guardian angel improvements along with a one sec Regen cool down.
I find aim as basic as it gets for a challenge and dictates only the fact that you have eyes.
Sometimes that’s great. As ana is quite nifty with that
But I’m not a checkers person. I like chess.
Ana’s best assets to me are nade and sleep which are finite and limited.
I don’t need a basic af boring hero to play bullet tag…
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I’m not. They will probably screw her up like they screwed up brig when they reworked her. Another support in the toilet
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How do you mean??? Brig is way more fun to play against now that she isn’t indestructible. She takes more skill to play and is kinda fun to play now too. Her rework was a massive success imo
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She wasn’t indestructible with her last kit either.
I would prefer old brig with a 150 shield and no self inspire than current maraca brain brig on live
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Are we talking about launch Brig? She was pretty tanky and could burst down 200HP heroes pretty easily lol. Also repair pack was instant…so yeah she was pretty busted
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No. I’m talking the last months she existed literally right before her rework.
If you wanna talk balance… Well live brig would be busted too if you let her have a 100 bash, a 40 self inspire, forever armor, and self multiplying armor.
But somehow sure…let’s pretend like brig wasn’t completely toned down months before her rework.
Three charge, ez brig is an idiot and I hope if Moira goes down, she drags the moron that brig is too
Bottom line is she more healthy for the game now because she is more challenging to play and fun to play against. Moira getting the same balance will be great too. It doesn’t have to be with aim…but giving Moira an actual challenge will be exciting.
A Moira rework is totally unnecessary. I just hope they increase her skill ceiling without changing her kit until its unrecognizable.
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When they rework supports they always focus on how it feels to play against them. They don’t give a crap about how it actually feels to play the support. Brig used to feel like a great option to turn to when you were getting wrecked in the backline. Not great in every situation, but good when you needed her.
Now she’s just another healbot and her kit makes no sense. Her self healing is too bad to be in the frontline but that’s where she needs to be to activate inspire. And there’s literally no reason to pick her over anyone else.
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oh yeah cause moiras RNG orb and her shift when completely out of position and get away with anything is “skill and requires thought” moiras only skill is managing her heal
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Well that is important lol. Why would they make a hero that is only fun for the person playing it? That’s terrible balance.
Because that’s all they focus on. It’s important to make a support fun to play too. There’s currently only 2 support that are fun. The rest have been ruined because of whiners
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Bottom line is, that works for old brig. Amazing what 222 does
Just take back her charges and nix inspire. Illl be happy.
Moira is the same. And all it’ll do is make the game even more dictated by reaction over strategy
Funny, I didn’t like her heal resource buff. Because I think now that’s a skill she doesn’t have.
I quite find it funny that fade, which does nothing for anyone else is skilless, but flashbang is fine as it takes a whole screen and stops entire ultimates
Or deflect which can toss an ult back
But sure… Moira is an issue for two abilities. One of which she also eliminates her ally buffs with…
Yawn
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Yep I can’t wait. Especially if they buff her damage. Tracking is already my specialty so I’ll be getting a Moira buff for free with no downsides.
For the people who are bad at aiming but claim they’re “thinking players” 
Sorry for you guys, but there should be no free lunches.
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