Flankers are definitely a problem (some worse than others, like Sombra and the terrible design that is stealth hacking), but it’s made way worse by an absolute lack of teamwork/cooperation. A large majority of games I’ve played have involved everyone treating the game as a team deathmatch. Lot’s of running in 1 at a time and dying repeatedly and lots of flat out ignoring the team. It creates an environment where flanking thrives, and it’s basically impossible to do anything about it depending on whos flanking you unless you have perfect aim (and sometimes even that isn’t enough vs some heroes). And since people recognize flanking solo can work, the problem perpetuates itself, encouraging more people to run off by themselves in an attempt at flanking the enemy for kills.
Nothing I do works. I’ve tried pointing out that it’s a team game, asking people to stop running in alone and group, pinging, playing different heroes to synergize/counter the enemy, all to no effect. A significant amount of people I get grouped with flat out don’t care to play as a team. If I want to do even slightly well I’m forced into picking Moira so I can either duel the flanker or flank myself. As much as I enjoy her, I’m getting sick of being forced into it just to try to enjoy a game. You’re basically forced into perpetuating the problem too because your team doesn’t want to work as a team.
I’m really frustrated and these issues are making me hate the game, and that’s not even considering the fact that people will flame support for literally anything you do, right or wrong, good or bad. Idk what can be done to fix it. It’s a real shame since the gameplay is actually pretty fun when people work as a team. Just wanted to vent. Gonna go subject myself to more misery as a support now ._.
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I still enjoy playing support hopefully the thirsty DPS will learn to help peel and sombra Genji get looked at by balance teams
Join us… Come to the dark side. Sombra has the support nature to her… Become a Sombra main…
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No Ty she will be nerfed so I’ll wait till after to learn her
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I normally quiet but is the team is feeding. I point out the feeding amd what the enemy team focus is. Like bro jq and mei into genji? Please stop trying to dive and accept you are not the one. Otherwise i just go brig and gove up trying to keep them alive. You are not tying, so why should I?
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And the whole time they are feeding solo spamming I need healing. So annoying
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I wish those genjis and sombras would attack my supports, so I can easily take them out. But as soon as I start doing that, my support just run away and let them both deal with me.
Another issue is that there are a lot of new people to OW and i dont think they realize the importance of teamwork. Hopefully things get better as people learn the game more.
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Free to play means you don’t have to enjoy or even be a regular fps player (basically someone willing to actually buy an fps title full price) and since it’s been advertised well everyone even those harvest moon players are trying to out. This is free 2 play bottom tiers and it will be harder to get out of bronze for some who thought old bronze was elo hell
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What mode are you playing? Comp? QP?
I personally haven’t found support that bad so far, but I’ve noticed I have been playing tank a lot more lately than I ever did in OW1, mostly because I’m just really having a blast on Zarya before they nerf her, but maybe also a little bit because of the pressure on supports now.
Every game it’s dps spamming for heals while missing like 10hp and standing behind me, totally safe, meanwhile the people still fighting are getting decimated. I’m solo healing, I cannot deal with you right now, Widow, find a health pack or wait! But other than that pressure to pump out heals in every direction and the occasional pesky flanker, I’m not finding it too bad.
But I’m also just in unranked modes, so I can appreciate how different things are in ranked and how much more focused supports get.
Also, I really hate push. I just never know what to do. My team all commit really deep and I don’t know what to do. Do I go with them as the only support? Do I stay pushing the robot? Do I wait until someone notices and comes back to take my place so I can move in and heal? Like, I do not know what to do in that mode as a support… and I hate it and want 2cp back.
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I’ve been sticking to unranked modes as well, apparently there’s a bug where people winning all their placement games are getting placed/hardstuck in bronze 5 without the possibility of getting out even after winning 7 games in a row 
Idk how the matchmaking works exactly for non-ranked modes, but either we’re in way different brackets or I have extremely terrible luck. Either my team runs in 1 at a time and dies leaving me alone or I get immediately picked off from behind and my team does nothing to prevent / punish the flank. The people who I encounter spamming “I need healing” expect me to move to them when they’re 1/2 way across the map alone behind the enemy team by themselves. Makes so much sense. In either case, the majority of my game time is waiting for respawn after I die and walking back, or walking back to respawn in a futile attempt to group with people.
Idk about push at all. I get that you want to push it as far as you can, but that’s about it. I don’t understand when or why it switches sides, or how it’s even judged. I generally assume someone wants to be on the robot at all times, but then you run into the problem of your team running off and dying because they cared more about kills in the moment. Feels way worse than assault ever did, but that might also be a component of people not understanding how it works, lack of teamwork, etc. Not sure why they even decided to remove them from the rotation.
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Doubt it. This is the direction of 5v5. Enjoy those “individual agencies”
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I noticed in beta, that some support heroes absolutely don’t fit into the format any more. Very curious if this will change over time or in other elo brackets. But if you are a Zen or Mercy OTP, may the lord have mercy for you.
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Sombra and people not focusing down widow players have convinced me to stop playing support outside of when I need to for challenges since “All roles” really means support.
I shouldn’t be chasing down widow as a support, the DPS should be.
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im thriving as a kiriko OTP
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Not entirely true. Sure individual play is more impactful now, but the team with stronger synergy still usually wins.
Plus people here seem to lament team play so much yet you never got that outside of six stacking with friends. You never get that in solo queue.
The only persons that I succeed to have cooperation these times are the other supports lol, which is kinda lame.
Also I freaking hate how dps and tanks will just flee behind a wall when at half or nearly full life, leaving me behind trying to heal their sorry butt that I can’t heal since he is now behind a wall
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Question: how many hours have you spent in DM (deathmatch) with your support? 
This flanking issue got so bad in one game that I my team actually had to pull a dps out of front line to just ONLY help support out and even this wasn’t enough. Tracer and Sombra were just running circles around us. The game is far from balanced and we all just got fed up and frustrated.
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One of the things I miss the most from 1 is the looking for group feature, but try finding a overwatch discord or even just a friendly gaming one and find groups to play with, overwatch shines when you are in comms having a good time with people you work well with and you arn’t healing solo and getting dived while your dps pick their nose then spam x for healing cause they arn’t getting any heals.