Pharahs ult is fine. Its meant to be an ultimate that requires strategy and timing to get use out of it. While I’m not denying that it usually is a suicide mission, keep in mind that you took at least a tank and a support with you which typically secures the team fight. Note that pharahs base kit is weak, her ult is not. And before you say ‘Oh but you’re a console player so your opinion doesn’t matter’ Pharah is still an easy kill if you have hitscans.
Nollaig Shona Duit! ~WildPants
Okay Okay, my turn.
Mercys ultimate is actually so useful and if you use it right you can basically give your team so much information (because you fly and can see everything) and it is actually a great ult.
You notice when you get value out of it (especially with the DMG boost hitmarks) and you really notice when you time it bad and… you get nothing out of it.
The thing with valkyrie is that similar to barrage, it needs timing. Except instead of killing people directly, it helps your team by either using supercharger lite or trans lite
Nollaig Shona Duit! ~WildPants
Most players below diamond try and team wip when using ults. This is why many players feel a lot of the dps ults are weak.
Especially ones like Pharahs, Soliders and Reapers.
When you get into masters and up players will actually use ults just to secure only 1 or two kills. This is where they start to be good.
I wish pharah would hover faster and fall faster. There are times where a mccree gets the first hit followed by the second hit in rapid succession because the preaim is already there so for all practical purposes I might as well have been headshotted by a widowmaker.
If she floated, teathered up and down and fell a little faster it would make getting the immediate second shot more difficult.
The bad thing about Valkyrie is that it’s so inconsistent. You can get massive value out of Valkyrie, and mass damage boost is much incredibly valuable and strong, along with the ability to see enemy health bars, Mercy can help focus down targets much easier than a player could on their own.
But there are bad Valkyries, that are somethings unavoidable, but they’re always noticeable by everyone, especially the Mercy. I tend to be quite harsh on my judgement of a ‘bad Valkyrie’, classing a bad one as where I needed to prioritise healing over damage boost as I should be able to trust my other healer enough to keep the team up during a time when I prioritise damage boost, especially a Moira or Ana. If its with another main healer like Baptiste or (debatable now, but she is imo) Brigitte, then I’ll prioritise more on healing as Brig and Bap’s healing tends to be weaker overall due to Mercy’s consistency and not feel too bad about it. But with a Moira or Ana, if I need to prioritise healing outside of a massive ult exchange, it feels to me I can’t trust my other support, which I hate feeling as it makes the game a lot harder if that trust isn’t there. And when nothing dies as quickly, the whole team will notice, and there’ll be that one person going ‘Why did we Mercy ult?’ in chat, leaving you feeling a little stupid, at least that’s how it feels to me.
Valkyrie is a good enabler, but a bad Valkyrie does feel like more of a spectator mode as your ult is either completely out damage and you’re sat there left helplessly as you fly back to the spawn and wait to regroup, or a team just isn’t co-ordinated enough and there’s just no focus fire on targets you call out.
My turn lol
Sombra isnt a troll pick she can be a valuable asset to your team given the sombra player has the gamesense to utilize her. she doesnt need a buff at all Just because this meta isnt her meta doesn’t mean she needs a buff. Soilder, tracer, genji ,ana, zen and including sombra i can go on and on as to why hero arnt a valuable pick because of double sheild but 1. Doesnt mean there trash and 2. Doesnt mean there need a buff. Also just because a hero has the lowest pickrate doesnt mean there trash. Either to be honest due to how the SR system works learning and of meta hero can deffently be more beneficial than taken a hero that everyone is trying to play because you are compared to the other people who play that specific hero at your rank to see where you rank on the ladder.
You still have to pre-plan in advance to die before ulting. That shouldn’t be the case with any ult, it’s not fair.
McCree’s is the closest thing to Pharahs yet his ult can:
The only thing i can agree pharah needs is to be able to cancel barrage in regards to her ult
Nollaig Shona Duit! ~WildPants
I think pharah’s ult is sort of stuck in the past, when the devs were still using the “all in” excuse for abilities.
An example of this would be reaper’s old disgusting wraith that was uncancelable. After it was buffed to have a free reload and a cancel, it became much more versatile.
A lot of the legacy abilities need touch ups now after the game has been out for so long to be able to keep up with the competition.
Or just death blossom in general would probably be the better comparison given it is also a suicide ultimate. I guess nowadays at low ranks he heals to full rather consistently. But against an aware team… Pharah’s is probably better.
As someone who plays on console, we’re not all idiots, we just have a bad case of hero complex, even to the detriment of our team (there’s also Xim users, but they are to be shunned by the general public) but yeah, we can take down a Pharah (I’ve even done it with Doom for crying out loud)
Idk how I missed that lol.
Barrage has a way faster ttk than blossom, but it’s too huge of a risk/reward on top of her growing list of counters.
I can’t use the pharah ult without yelling “Witness me!” over mic since I know I’m probably not going to make it back.
I just wish she had a crater button that dropped her out of the sky, doesn’t even have to do damage, just a way to get from up there to down there really quickly.
Pharah’s ult is the least of her problems
i’ll agree insofar that i don’t get why anyone would think it’s the reason why she’s irrelevant
Since some of us are saying controversial things. How about to get maximum effect out of doomfist you have to actually learn to play him and be at least above average with him.
yeah sure you can get the random kill with your rocket punch, but to effectively get kills with doomfist and not feed out of your brain you need to be good at him.
edit: spelling
To be fair, if she got a better ultimate to use her kit, well, barrage would objectively be the problem. That being said, everyone knows we will not be getting a rework on her ult. So your point still stands.
something controversial
Reaper’s ult at least puts some pressure on squishies next to him, and has a pretty bizarre vertical hitbox. If a Pharah ults away from you, it’s like “ok, I have 29 mins to kill this pleb”