Warning: This is hard to watch
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this is a joke. up close they kill almost the same time cassidy a bit faster. once damage fall off begins it is a tragedy. Illari is a much better dps than the actual dps. she can kill the rein and do a full emote before cassidy gets his kill. what has this game become?!?
Let’s not forget Cass has double fan the hammer up close
You can argue that his far falloff range is nuts, like it’s at Roadhog hook range lmao, but the close ranged damage is no contest. If they actually showed that he’d blow Illari out of the water
Also Rein won’t be AFK in game so he’ll just put his 1600hp barrier up and take 0 damage from either hero
did you see the video? how can you defend this lmao?!?
You don’t really need video proof though the numbers are all out there. Bap is also a better DPS than a lot of DPS because he can field himself
supports are playing the game on tutorial mode while the rest of us have to struggle to survive the raid boss tanks.
I’m not defending it but a better comparison would be to compare her with Ashe. Cass isn’t meant to have good damage falloff because people cry about it too hard when he does
They can’t use that comparison because then Illari would lose.
They just want to complain about Illari, they don’t even want MeCree buffs.
Illari was until her damage got nerfed
Cassidy’s range is garbage 20-30m to Illari’s 30-50m
Wait till you learn Zen can do up to 600 damage with one burst of his secondary fire
who cares honestly they shoudl of deleted him instead of renaming him after the one incident
Move closer or swap to Ashe
Because you’re comparing the raw damage alone and not thinking about the whole kits
Which part of Illari’s kit does extra damage or helps her do more damage again? The ultimate? Yeah, that’s definitely reliable
well support isn’t considered the easiest most hand-holdy role in the game for no reason. it’s basically a participation trophy for no thumb dps rejects that constantly cry about other roles in the game on forums no matter how overtuned (or at times broken) the role is.
Once again, another video posting of not understanding sustained fire, and burst-fire.
Illari is built for sustained damage over time. Cassidy is built for burst-damage.
They did.
It’s just a fact that most every Damage-role tends to engage in more risk than other roles. Supports tend to have longer effective ranges or no falloff on their weapons (just about every Support is projectile-based); and they have larger projectiles than the Damage-role, normally.
None of this should be new information. This is year one Overwatch basic fundamentals.
Baptiste is also built for sustained fire over Soldier’s burst-fire.
Additionally, Baptiste vs. Soldier video, has Baptiste with a fire-rate since adjusted.
Ashe would eventually lose out agaisnt Illari’s 14 ammo vs. her 12, plus reload rates.
Long understood that Zenyatta’s burst-damage is stronger than Hanzo’s headshots; but Hanzo also has Dragonstrike.
What’s riskier? Deadeye or Captive Sun?
You can run this same experiment with a Tank and reach the same results.
Honestly they should update Cass. Give him another ability or something fitting but equivalent to wallclimb or double jump. Not saying give him those specifically but some extra utility. He’s just gun guy character. Give him something neat.
I dont even play cass my aim is too bad
This garbage vidoe again? Not defending Illari or anything, but please, can some cassidy players just be less biased? Who ever made this vidoes as “proof” just nitpicking the best scenario for Illari to fit into their narrative.
The headshot reduction on Tanks doesn’t further reduce 1.5x headshot multiplier heroes,Illari is one of them.
Cassidy’s kill time was heavily slowed by the reloading due to his small clip size, while in real practice, the burst damage from one clip is more important. Also, ignoring cassidy can quick reload with roll.
Pick that specific range that Illari doesn’t have falloff while Cassidy does.
Wondering why it’s tested on a tank instead of squish? Because Cassidy’s ttk on a 250 health hero is less than half of Illari’s, it wouldn’t fit their narrative. Range is probably the only thing Cassidy players can complain about. But that’s a different topic, let’s stop pretending his raw dps is bad.
If Cassidy’s primary is really that bad, what about switching Cassidy’s primary to Illari’s? I guess they would immediately cry about the TTK becomes too long.
Message removed as it showed tests done in the training range, where I was unaware that tanks have reduced health. I take responsibility for my actions and admit that I have a micro e-peen.
Blizzards dev’s we see you, we hear you, we got it
Patch notes: since rein is easy to melt
We buff him with 100 more armor.
Yeah, Illari’s falloff range is too long.
This doesn’t make her better than McCassidy, though.
She seriously needs a full rework in order to actually be a support and not just a DPS with minor healing capabilities. Actual utility when
The video was taken before Illari’s damage was reduced from 75 to 70.