Illari buff why

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ILLARI

Solar Rifle

  • Primary fire charge gain is no longer paused by secondary fire, nor channeling Captive Sun.
  • Ammo increased from 14 to 16.

Captive Sun

  • Now fully refills secondary fire resource and resets overheated status.
  • Removed the damage falloff penalty on the Sunstruck explosion.

the 3 first buffs seem okay the ammo is a little annoying but nothing crazy but that 4th buff is going to be wild her ult was already insnaly good she was a mid a tier hero she didnt nedd this buff 1 and 3 yes QOL buffs are always welcome but 4 seem crazy when its just such a strong team whip ult

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Illari’s ult is probably one of the worst ults in the game?

It was legit better to solo ult like an Ana than it was to try to do anything else with it because it’s soooo easy to block

Heck, you can literally hit map objects BEHIND you if you’re too close to them

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most other ults in the game that use their weapon as the ult already reloads their guns. This change just makes it more consistent between the heroes.

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Block it, eat it, cleanse it, spread out, out heal it. It has so many counters. Its basically as bad as d.va bomb, which used to be a team wipe ult before people got used to it.

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If you have the mental capacity of a goldfish, I can see how a person would think this.

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her ult is strong for 2 reasons. Squishies that aren’t getting healed through it just disappear, and it forces the team getting hit with it to spread out/take cover. If they dont, it’s an easy teamwipe if it’s not Suzu’d or nom nom’d by Diva/Sigma or blocked by a shield to begin with. It provides space for the rest of your team to follow up on (if they actually do)

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4 buffs in a row, what could go wrong?

see mauga 3 weeks ago

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Worse than DVA. DVA’s ult actually does enough damage to kill you

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illari was too niche so they have to gigabuff her until she’s popular again :DDDDD
ever since ow2 dropped it’s like they can’t accept that heroes can be niche
like torb and sym have always existed and have always been an example of a niche hero maintaining an audience

it’s not really illari’s balancing, it’s just the meta at large rn that she doesn’t fit into

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Thats IF you even hit anyone with it with how beyond easy it is to blocked

Or if a Tank gets hit by it bodyblocking their teammates

Or if they have Sigma, D.va, Orisa, Zarya, Reinhardt, Ramattra, Winston, Mei, Genji, Symmetra, Baptiste, Brigitte, Zen, Lucio, or Kiriko to stop it outright

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I have to agree that a lot of the time, Illari’s ult is pretty bad. I more often use it to get a suzu out of them.

But it’s an ult that I’m pretty conflicted about because even getting 1 kill is good. If you don’t have an answer for it, you kind of just blow up and sometimes it won’t be your fault. I’ve had plenty of times where a tank accidentally stands too close to someone, it triggers and the squishy dies… or you know, starts a chain reaction.

But in general, I’m pretty happy with these. Small, but meaningful.

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no its not its an amazing team wip ult

our wait it out like all dps and most tanks have to

ya and that happens to alot of ults not

that buff is fine its a qol buff

its not as bad a dva bomb and wear is reins buff hes is counterd by all of that

its a huge team whip ult that also lets her fly its a insnaly good ult with her kit

ya but 2 a QOL changes so those should stay

ya and dva ult takes time so you can just walk away dva bomb is not great in higher ranks but illaris is the best dps ult in the game and your not even a dps

but shes not its just not her meta shes an a teir hero but mauga forces ana kiriko so shes weak in this meta

ya shes just not a good fit like lucio i want like one buff to him but im selfish with lucio but hes a solid b tier low a teir hero whos just not good in this meta

aim it at the ground behind them your able to fly you dont have to shoot it instently pop it let your team burst down the defences then pop it or you can wait for the cleanse or pop it when they run out of dm wiw its kinda like this is what support mains tell dps mains all the time but for some reason we dont listen to our own advice

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You do know that while flying, you still only have 200 hp right? And you move slower than Mercy, Pharah, or even Echo too?

You’re literally an easier target to kill than a Cassidy using Dead Eye if you just float around waiting

And by that point, pressing a movement key for 2 seconds is enough to spread out that she wont even hit more than maybe ONE person

There’s also WAY more abilities and heroes who can just block/ negate/ stop Illari’s ult anyways?

D.va, Doomfist, Mauga, Orisa, Ramattra, Reinhardt, Roadhog, Sigma, Winston, Zarya, Bastion, Cassidy, Genji, Mei, Reaper, Sombra, Symmetra, Tracer, Ana, Baptiste, Brigitte, Kiriko, Liveweaver, Lucio, Moira, and Zen ALL have abilities, attacks, or ultimates that can fully negate Illari’s

It’s one of the worst ultimates in the game, and I really can’t think of one as bad or worse? MAYBE Pharah?

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Most of them are just QOL changes that she should’ve never had in her kit. These are definitely not “buffs” and definitely not enough to change much about her being weak.

Also OP having issue with the Ult buff… Her Ult is one of the worst in the game!

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One word: SupportWatch

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On paper, not in practice. There’s so many ways to block or even survive it.

You’ve complained about every part of her kit, even her boop. You just seem desperate to whine about her no matter what. You actually tried whining about her boop being “better than Lucio’s” as if she is wall-riding across the map like him in an attempt to make it seem like her boop was OP.

You’re opinions on Illari should immediately be disregarded because it’s clear you just have a bias against the character.

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I didn’t even know the explosion had falloff. This makes it a guaranteed chain reaction now no?

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these buffs are meh looool

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Slay him.

“You’re” opinions should immediately be disregarded as well!

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That feel when they buffed the LEAST supportive support hero