If you're suspicious of a hacker, just report them

They don’t just watch vods all day, they spend a little time analyzing vods in order to figure out some real cheaters from which to implement algorithms to catch more cheaters, and mostly are building cheat catching algorithms.

Cheating is handled entirely differently from Gameplay Sabotage, Abusive Chat, or Spamming… it is automated, of course, but not on the basis of reports received, on the basis of algorithmic cheat detection.

Reports don’t directly cause a cheating ban the way every other category* causes action, but identify the useful examples for building better algorithms. (You will, of course, be guaranteed to get banned if your were one of those examples, so reports do get the reported individual banned too, eventually).

*Except maybe Bad Battletag? It’s just a name, surely someone takes the time to actually read the name and see if it’s actually bad, right? right? … Maybe not.

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Way ahead of you pal.

Anyone that headshots me is obviously a cheater and gets reported immediately.

It’s not, I already provided proof. It’s an automated system

https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/fqp4qm/carter_proves_you_can_be_banned_for_cheating/

The person did this live on stream

no, that is automated too, someone on the forums was named one of the generic names that you can get from the name changer without thinking one yourself and his name got forcefully changes.

This is the person it happened to, it was automated system too, and it was a default name not one he made up.

This doesn’t conclusively prove that the system is automated at all. It’s not a very good test either.

For example can these questions be answered?

  • How many reports were made?
  • Were they all for cheating?
  • It was a fairly low level account
  • The report rate for players encountered would have been unusually high, compared to a real account
  • It was a custom game

All this proves is that there is some kind of automation for an overwhelming amount of reports. I’ve seen lots of suspected “cheaters” on ladder get reported heavily each game based on suspicion and yet they never receive a ban.

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lol yes they were reports for cheating… he did it live on stream…

it’s obvious you didn’t look at the screenshot that was provided on reddit where he posted what the acct was suspended for

I don’t think you understand the question, for everyone who submitted a report were they all cheating reports only?

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it literally says what the suspension was for in the screenshots they provided lol clearly didn’t go look at that link I posted

here it is again

So i’ll answer the question for you, you don’t know, you are making an assumption based on what you believe, but its not necessarily true.

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What I believe? he live streamed the whole thing lol and it says the reason why

done replying though as I watched the whole thing lol when i saw this tweet last year

How do you know that some abusive chat/gameplay sabotage reports weren’t mixed in there?

You don’t and neither does he, it’s not conclusive proof that the whole system in its entirety is automated.

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Because the screenshot literally says what it was for… which u still hven’t looked at

Anyway, bye.

I saw this when it happened, I already seen the screenshot, it doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. It’s not conclusive proof end of story.

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Report and ban reasons are totally separated: you can be at your last suspension before being banned for toxicity, going for a full throw streak and being mass reported for gameplay sabotage and guess what? you’ll get the first sanction level for throwing, meaning 3 days.

Edit: Hello vonKlippe

omg :thinking: I had to go check it out lol

Honestly though I’m just gonna mute this thread, the “competitive discussion” is very toxic compared to “General discussion”

Why have you been there so so long then ?

I think its widely accepted and agreed upon that the other reports reasons are automated.

I’m just pointing out the inadequacy of this “proof” and why its not a controlled conclusive result that specifically the whole cheating reports are automated in their entirety.

Nothing against Carter, or anyone else in this thread, it just doesn’t hold up to scrutiny.

Sorry if I offended you Moira-21906 by pointing out the failings of the test.

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Long ago blizzard used people as bots for Wow, they were just answering text messages and had no authorization to get out the GM island unless emergency.

Now everything is fully automated, unless emergency. You got a first pass with the anti-cheat system then a second pass via the massive reports from players, with a number set high enough in their mind to avoid most of the false reports. And once you’re left with only 1 or 2 unjustified ban once in a while you can allow your little company which make almost no profit (that’s what every corporation says), to spend the expensive 8$ an hour for a guy to check the validity of the complains.

(and yes those 8$/h are considered as lost because you cannot value them as pure rentability numbers)

Ehh…. Idk…. If I really suspect someone or hacking (I know they’re out there) I’ll definitely watch the replay code rather than just spam reporting.

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They might if everyone will follow your advice. :slight_smile:

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no they wont, also every thread on the forum doesnt need you to hop in with a contrarian opinion just because you can.