If you pick 3rd DPS you can’t complain about your team compositions

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Not really salty about this but it happens so often that I feel like I have to talk about it. If you pick 3rd DPS and leave spawn without filling you have no say in whining about your composition. Now I can understand if you’ve had to fill for the last 3-5 games and want to play DPS only for people to still pick it and refuse to swap, I can understand getting angry at your teammates (within reason) but or if you pick 1st or 2nd DPS it can be understandable to be angry but if you INTENTIONALLY pick 3rd DPS not filling and causing a potential loss you can’t say anything about a “bad team composition”

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I’m constantly playing Tank/Support because I feel I have to for my team to be successful. I want to play DPS in Quick Play but it’s like I can’t because no one wants to switch to a balanced team. It’s really annoying and disappointing. I have no problem with Tank or Support, but people like me can’t flex into DPS because we feel obligated to play these two roles.

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But what if there’s the LOW TEAM DAMAGE alert

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yes I can lol. 3 dps is better than 2-2-2 right now.

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Constructing a workable team is the responsibility of every single team member. The first two guys are not off the hook just because they can load and click on the dps faster. It’s not the third guys fault… well, not solely his fault anyway. He is 1/6th at fault.

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Triple tank is the meta right now…

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This is why we need a system to encourage and reward flexing. Played DPS last game? Well, if you play tank or support the next game you get bonus Exp/SR. This community is too entitled and selfish. those things ruin team games and teamwork is core to Overwatch. Too bad Blizzard will do nothing about this problem and let the game get more toxic…

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Correct, but I’m saying 3 dps is better than 2-2-2

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False, completely false.

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Not when I’m the 3rd dps friend. It basically becomes deathmatch for my team if we have 3 decent dps.

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Yes, you might do good as a third dps, but you lost the right to tell other people to pick tank/support.

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I agree.

Earlier i had a match of 5 instalock DPS who willingly walked out of spawn without swapping.
Two people later swapped, and we drew on 2cp, but if they had switched earlier than the entire attacking round we might have won.

I said something along the lines of, “Man, I’m tired of DPS-Duos who instalock and never swap,” and they got all butthurt in chat like, “But we swapped?? lol??? it didn’t even matter that we swapped, huh?”
And frankly, no. it didn’t. :slight_smile:

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Blizzard needs to do something. DPS is by far the most played and popular role. No one (other than the few remaining tank mains) willingly plays tank anymore and people willing to play support has shrunk this year too.

Everyone hates playing tank so much that they want them hard nerfed to end Goats comp. No one seems to remember how frustrating and weak tanks felt in 2-2-2 not that long ago and that was before a bunch of DPS buffs that went through.

Unless blizzard does something soon this game will become DPSwatch and that’s no joke.

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I’m legitimately concerned that GOATs is the only way to play tanks effectively now, I hope that I’m wrong tho.

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UNLESS your team has unanimously agreed a 3rd DPS is needed or wanted and have come up with a strategy to accommodate such tactics.

I’ve seen it happen, though not frequently.

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Oh yes, I’ve played with 3 flankers before as Winston back when Dive was a thing. Not gonna lie it was fun, it felt like I was babysitting 3 kids and watch them having the time of their lives lol

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Playing tank in 2-2-2 sucks right now. You can get deleted in under a second as a tank. That’s insane! Everyone complained about CC and Brigitte but she’s not the problem for tanks. A one second stun shouldn’t be a death sentence for a tank but it is in OW. The real issue is how powerful damage (ranged and burst) has become.

No one’s able to see the bigger picture right now because we have a restrictive meta comp in Goats. If you look at hero balance through the scope of 2-2-2 comps tanks are weak while supports have a pretty strict hierarchy. To get rid of Goats I have no doubt that Blizzard will nerf both tanks and supports while somehow justifying more DPS buffs.

Who will play tank or support when they get nerfed? The only answer to Goats is to give us min/max hero roles per team and some kind of system to reward and promote flexing. Trying to balance away Goats will only hurt the game in the long run.

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This is low-key a really good idea.

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I like your idea of rewarding people who flex by giving extra SR, I think that will help alot of flex mains like myself.

Also I’m not concerned about GOATS anymore, because after Brigitte gets her nerfs Dive will be coming back strong. Think about it for a second, D.va and Genji are meta in ladder while D.va and Winston are meta in pro play, and you know Tracer is going to become playable again when her only reliable counter has been nerfed. The only thing keeping GOATs together is Lucio (good boy Lucio) and Brigitte, but dive has more powerful picks than GOATs at the moment.

Tonight is definitely going to be a turning point in the meta, and my only hope is that Mccree and Roadhog will save us from Dive and keep it under control while we deal with GOATs properly.

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I think Overwatch suffers because of meta slaves and over-flexing. People who tilt because 3 players instalocked dps are actually more problematic (I find) than having triple dps. Players who try to play roles they’re 100% unfamiliar with generally don’t provide any value to the team and would be better off playing something else.

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