you need to rethink your choices, gob forbid you have to hit someone twice to get a kill.
its not the end of the world, just no more cheap kills across the map.
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If I were you, I would be very quiet if my most played heroes were Junkrat and Moira.
The problem with Hanzo (and Widow) is that their rate of fire is far too low to do any meaningful damage or pose a threat if they don’t have oneshots. Especially since healing is available on a large scale.
Hanzo takes longer to eliminate a 250 target than Junkrat. And that while Hanzo has much smaller projectiles and he even has to hit a headshot to minimize the time.
And Hanzo doesn’t really compete with Junkrat. Hanzo has to compete against Ashe, Cass and Widow for his role in the match. And then things look very bleak for him.
| Hits for 250 hp kill | time for 250hp kill in sec | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bodyshot | Headshot | Bodyshot | Headshot | |
| Soldier | 14,00 | 7,00 | 1,44 | 0,67 |
| Tracer | 21,00 | 11,00 | 1,00 | 0,50 |
| Bap | 10,00 | 5,00 | 1,76 | 0,78 |
| Hammond | 50,00 | 25,00 | 1,96 | 0,96 |
| Orisa | 20,00 | 10,00 | 1,90 | 0,90 |
| Bastion | 10,00 | 5,00 | 1,80 | 0,80 |
| Sombra | 32,00 | 16,00 | 1,55 | 0,75 |
| Widow | 20,00 | 10,00 | 1,90 | 0,90 |
| Widow(ADS) | 3,00 | 1,00 | 4,20 | 1,40 |
| Cass | 4,00 | 2,00 | 1,49 | 0,50 |
| Ashe | 4,00 | 2,00 | 1,95 | 0,65 |
| Ana | 4,00 | - | 2,40 | - |
| Hanzo | 3,00 | 2,00 | 3,75 | 2,50 |
| Junkrat | 3,00 | - | 1,60 | - |
PS: I do not play Hanzo and even kinda hate him
(Edit: corected some errors within the table)
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same cheap kills are when i do a 360 and suck the remaining life out of a low hp target.
or not even having my crosshair on them while ignoring reload so my whole focus can be on timing my shift and AD strafing.
we all use cheap kills. its competetive. not doing it is kinda throwing.
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nice cherry picking, yes those are my two top played, but you neglect the fact i flex and play almost all heroes equally
REAPER
46:34:30
SOLDIER: 76
44:18:18
ZARYA
43:16:46
MEI
43:03:27
CASSIDY
42:46:34
ANA
37:37:16
D.VA
33:55:54
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“If you’re such a cracked accurate sniper hitting a follow up shot should be easy for you right? Since you claim to have such good aim”
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never said that i was a crackshot, handsoap should not be able to one shot the second someone turns a corner. you are just trolling
hanzo should be rewarded with skill, lobbing a log across the map and getting a lucky headshot is not skill, spamming logs through a chokepoint is not skill.
hitting two body shots should be rewarded.
atleast junkrat needs two direct hits to get a kill with his primary, and before you say he has a cheap combo, you still have to land a direct hit and you need to be fairly close to land a mine
Oh Boi,
Hanzo does not have logs, His Arrows have a radius of 0,1m and are the smallest projectiles. Junkrat has 0,25m, thats 250% the Size of Hanzos arrows!
(Junkrat also has 2m Explosion radius but thats irrelevant for to moment)
Headshots are far, far more difficult to hit than bodyshots.
(Oh, I found a error in my Table, Its even worse than I tought. I updated the table)
For a 250 HP target Junkrat needs 3 Direct bodyhits, so does Hanzo, but Hanzo does take 2,15 sec longer. Even if Hanzo hits a headshot he still takes 0,9sec longer to kill than Junkrat while having far more difficult shots to hit.
So Junkrat can kill way faster while his shots are far easier (He can even have indirects) to hit than Hanzos. So I ask you, is that Fair? Is that good Skill expression?
Its neither fair nor a good skill expression.
Hanzo should be able to kill a Junkrat faster with headshots than a Junkrat can kill Hanzo with only bodyshots but with to upcoming patch, thats no longer the case.
- its not cherry picking, Junkrat and Moira are your most played heros with around 60h on both and your Profilepic is also Moira.
- Formatting !!! Hero and Time played in one line is far easier to read
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you literally have 30 minutes on handsoap and is one of your least played heroes, so why are you defending him?
windowmarker is your most played hero, she can one shot everything but tanks
Instead of trying to refute my points in a meaningful way, you just use ad hominem, wow. You’re making yourself more of an idiot who can’t argue
I already mentioned that I don’t play Hanzo:
Have you ever heard of neutrality or objectivity? Minimize your bias as much as possible, if not reduce it completely.
I also stand by the fact that no hero should be useless or should even be removed or lose his identity, since every hero has a group of players who love him. I don’t want something like that to happen to my favorite hero, so I don’t have the right to wish it on others either. That’s why I defend Hanzo. I try to have a neutral view of the matter and spread this and thus take action against false claims and bring more objectivity into discussions.
thats completely irrelevant for the discussion.
Hanzo also needs to land direct hits? And if we are talking about current hitboxes, hanzo is 0.1 and rat is 0.25 before the patch. Making rat have a much bigger hitbox, so if hanzo shoots logs, what does rat shoot?
Everytime someone complains about dying to Hanzo, I just maniacally laugh at how telling it is of their own gameplay.
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and you retort to name calling? btw flagged
That’s…
That’s literally the entire purpose of a sniper hero. LMFAO.
This has got to be the most braindead thing I’ve seen written on here. I don’t think hanzo should one shot either, but you still need to compensate him outside of that and actually build his kit AWAY from just being a sniper. That would be like if widow needed 2 shots to kill anyone. She would be completely useless.
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I’ll just refer to the hundreds of posts about how soft this community here is.
“Agree with me or you’re toxic and flagged.”
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which one is it? one or the other? you just contradicted yourself
Stop being combative to everyone because you aren’t able to do the same as Hanzo and think he’s all luck.
Answer the question from earlier. .1 width vs .25 width.
Junkrat fires missiles that don’t have to touch you to deal high damage, at least Hanzo has to make contact.
i literally also said if you can two shot someone, that takes less than 2 seconds more to do, you should be rewarded by a kill.
And if you literally hit someone in the head, you deserved that kill too.
You keep moving goal posts because you’re being beaten at every argument point you have made. Just stop.
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biased hanzo main
I don’t even play anymore. So try that again.
My profile is open because it’s funny to see people like you try and weaponize it, and look silly and sad in the process.
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