If you autolock DPS, please be able to do anything on your team

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I just lost 100 SR for the DPS not doing anything whatsoever Jeff help

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Lol yeah get a lot of thoes ussauly have to go 76,reaper or hog to secure kills

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If kills are not happening, then it’s not always the DPS players’ fault. An assortment of things can get in the way of a DPS finding the kills needed to win.

Maybe your tanks aren’t creating enough safe space for the DPS to do their job, maybe your healers aren’t keeping them up long enough in a fight, maybe there is someone who is pestering them in the back line, maybe your team needs to group up.

Try and analyze what factors are limiting your DPS potential, without just lazily classifying it as your teammates being bad.

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Could be your tanks not creating enough space…

I’ve seen my fair share of shy Reins and Orisas, that just stand still and wait for something to happen. That’s not how you play tank…

Could be many other things too… It’s a team game, remember? :wink:

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On my main I’m a support main with +160 in comp
On my alt I’m a dps main.
Both around high gold to mid plat

What I can tell you is:
If kills not are not happening there are many reasons.
Supports sticking on the backside of your tanks and not paying attention dps and when you ping they took to long.
DPS not peeling for supports
Tanks are not managing their CD properly or not creating space.
DPS moira

But the the biggest problem I encounter quite frequently is:
I play Soldier and stick to the supports and tanks, but the second (and/or third DPS) is far off on a mad flank.
We lack the damage on the frontline to burst through the frontline and loose the battle on the long run.

Supporting the flank would mean that our frontline is without fire power loosing the fight immediatley.

But I have to agree that there are bad DPS floating around the mid ranks (Ovetrack data proves it)

Another important aspect: It’s far easier to get good stats in a lost match with a DPS with good self sustain than with most tanks and supports. (You loose a lot less SR).
I assume that the skill of good support and tank mains prevent DPS player from dropping out of their rank. (Death is the biggest factor when it comes to SR gain/loss)

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Exactly. Believe it or not tanks hold the bigger piece of the pie when it comes to making the first move. You have the bigger health pool and should b e leading in to start the fight and get the attention on you so the dps can do their part with ease.

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Tanks mains and support have usually a better game sense and so they assume what went wrong.
And then there is a lot of frustation with DPS that they don’t peel for them or don’t build up enough kill pressure. (And sadly this is too often true)
This result in the prejudice we have right now

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Ya I agree there. I have had a game where our zen was calling out every discord and Our dps got upset about the call outs. Their excuse was zens priority was off. Lol he discorded people out of position. I’m sorry kill priority is a good list to follow but when someone is blatantly out of position they are at the top of the list because then it is a 6v5 and easier to collapse on them

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Well… that’s true, but there are other contributing factors.

Most of the heroes in this game are DPS.

DPS is apparently the most fun (I disagree) to play.

More people play DPS than anything else. So you’ll have more potatos playing DPS than anything else, on the same token, you’ll have more skilled players on DPS too, but bad things are noticed more than good things.

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And mid ranks with highest player population doesn’t help with the matchmaker lottery

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Exactly right.
20 chars

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diamond and below usually cant play tanks. not enough game sense to compute.

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Can’t play compared to Diamond, but if they stay in gold they are good enough for gold and so on.

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Neither can Masters. Most players think that players in the rank below them are not good enough to play a certain role/hero correctly.

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theres a difference between mechanical mistakes and bad game sense tho.

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Just wanna clear something up, I would call out focusing someone many times to try and get a pick to push, and literally everyone but the DPS would go after them

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You even get yelled at if you autolock healer.

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You know I see all the same people across the tiers, and I see the DPS or a off-meta picked for nearly every match. However, when I look at the issue it’s almost always the tank or healers leading the problems. If it is a DPS issue the issue is almost always their positioning and timing, and a large portion of those times I can convince them to group up and let the tanks go first. Magically fixing the round and winning many of those same exact games.

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Here’s the thing, your dps won’t be able to do anything because 90% of the tanks from bronze - diamond love to just sit and poke at the Hanamura chokepoint for 3:50 creating 0 space for your dps to actually start doing something because tanks are not initiating and creating space for dps to do their jobs.

It’s just 1 example but sometimes it’s really not your dps’ fault (but that’s all people from bronze - diamond seem to be able to complain about anyways, it’s always dps fault not other roles).

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Don’t forgt DVa complaining about having gold damage and gold kill