If you are going to allow people to filter the que by profile status (Hidden / Not Hidden.) then what was the point of adding a hide profile option? You just undid your own work.
Also, you can filter by endorsement too as I understand it? If you allow this, or make endorsement public, you just created another means by which to discriminate, possibly even worse than profiles were in the first place.
You have recreated the “link achievement to join” syndrome that destroyed raiding in WoW.
Why go to all the trouble to try and remove a means of discrimination to not only allow it to be circumvented, but add another means on top of that one?
I dont understand the logic here.
Am I just not seeing this correctly? Misinformed? Someone with more perspective, enlighten me?
My reason is I’m tired of being harassed for NOT picking Mercy, even though I have a lot of friggin’ time on her. I’m sick of her and how boring she is after the rework, so I just don’t want to play her.
But inevitably it starts to pile up. “Mercy main stop throwing and pick her!”, only nastier. I’d rather play the hero I want, and no-one can try to use stats or play-time against me.
My profile isn’t your business. Focus less on others, and worry about your own gameplay.
People with hidden profiles will find it harder to join for the exact same reason people expect you to link achievements in WoW to join their group.
Nobody wants dead weight in their pugs. If I were making a group for people around my current SR, I’m not going to want to take high gold/low plat players who technically could group with me, but don’t have nearly the skill to keep up in mid/low diamond level game.
If you want to hide your profile that badly, you don’t have to group up. Just use solo queue.
To clarify: I’m not really asking rather hidden profiles is good or bad, or why people would hide them.
More like, why Blizzard would give people the option to hide their profile to prevent harassment, then put a filter in the game to filter out people with hidden profiles.
To continue the WoW analogy, imagine trying to join a group and refusing to give any information about your character. You’re not going to tell them how geared you are, how experienced you are, or even whether you’re a tank, healer or DPS.
You’re going to struggle to find a group because people don’t want to play with people they don’t know vital information about.
Overwatch is no different. The option exists because such an option is necessary.
I understand your anlogy, and I agree with it with the caveat that if you are trying to form a premade or are applying for a premade, then you wouldnt be using the LFGR que and thus not really need the filter.
Just make one of the rules for joining your clan / guild /pre-made that the perspective applicant show you their profile. There is no need to allow a filter for it in game.
SoloQ (in QP/Arcade/Comp) is the LFR/LFD system. That’s still open to you without showing your profile.
But if you want to use the Find a Group system, you have to abide by the PuG leaders rules. That’s how it’s always worked.
The filter exists to save both parties time. You don’t want to join groups where you’re forced to show your profile, nor do people who want to see their teammates profiles want to group with people who have it hidden.
Wow, that’s a thing? Combine that with the fact that your profile is apparently going to be hidden by default and I imagine filtering by profile status is going to result in a rather empty list.
You can start your own group and explain to people that you are reformed Mercy main. There is no need to make profile private if you are not in the wrong. Private profile will always be assumed as proof of guilt.
Because a lot of people want hidden profiles for some reason, but then players like me don’t want to play with players with hidden profiles. It’s not brain surgery here
Ahh I understand now. I am thinking my understanding of the system was flawed or incomplete. Feel kind of dumb, but thank you for helping me get Un-dumb
I take it it works more like the manual LFG system in WoW or the LFG system in FFXIV (Leader sets a criteria, you elect to join.) and less like an actual automated que then?
Honestly I think Public Profiles should be the default.
I’m against the idea of being able to hide your profile and will keep mine public, but if you want to hide it, then you should have to manually do it, so the people who don’t care either way aren’t locked out of groups that want public profiles.
Basically yeah. You basically form groups for whatever content you want to do. You don’t have to go through the system to queue for Quick Play, Arcade (outside a specific mode right now) or Competitive.
The system exists so you can say “hey, I wanna queue with a premade that’s around my skill level so I don’t get random throwers or trolls”.
