That would be a terrible message to the community.
If all you have to do is childish screaming and spam “Brig broken” “remove Brig” based on the most selfish claims, and that actually made the devs ruin the hero for players, then the message is you have to be louder than streamers to be heard.
             
            
              
              
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              I vote we all cry for the next six months to delete Tracer and hard buff Bastion. Let’s be louder than Samito.
             
            
              
              
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Thats like a daily thing in these forums.
             
            
              
              
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              Well hopefully he doesnt have as much pull in the dev discord as we think
             
            
              
              
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              Bunch of these deletebrig streamers are friends and play together, so they can all use their fanbases to create narratives on what is “fun” and “fair”. Some of them talk to the devs.
Imagine if Brig players just started demanding that we get to change Tracer or Genji. That would obviously be wrong.
But the other way around is viewed as normal.
             
            
              
              
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              So are streamers not allowed to voice balance problems?
I understand it’s annoying when it’s because they obviously just hate the hero, but not all of them are like that
             
            
              
              
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Not one, but TWO ExC’s for his fade cleanse idea for Moira that got her dumpstered. Maybe they learned from that, but I doubt it.
             
            
              
              
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I don’t think they should be given special treatment like access to a dev discord.
             
            
              
              
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              I think they should, but not entirely for balance reasons. Content creators need some base communication with community managers, but I guess with 0 content right now there isn’t much need for it
             
            
              
              
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              I know not all of them are like that, im talking about those that are the loudest and scream that they “demand” blizzard do as they say, and their friends parroting what they say.
Most often they just make stuff up that are not even true to the hero they hate.
not allowed to voice balance problems?
That is not what I said. They dont address balance problems, they target the heroes that counter them in the most childish way.
This hysteria is what got Brig players harassed before, since the most toxic streamers have the most toxic fans.
             
            
              
              
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Why? They can just use these forums like everyone else
They shouldn’t be given special privileges just because they are streamers
             
            
              
              
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              Saying Brig is broken meanwhile Ana Zen and Bap are as well shouldn’t be taken serious. Also Doom and Tracer is broken too. Double standard is very strong
             
            
              
              
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Like who? I only know of 2 maybe 3 streamers that resemble that out of the hundreds
A lot of them do try to target balance, it’s just that they have to deal with problems most of the playerbase doesn’t.
             
            
              
              
              
            
           
          
            
            
              
And those are the ones being the loudest. And they the loudest fans that take up more and more space on the forums and twitter.
Its actually like a block against real balance talk.
A lot of them do try to target balance, it’s just that they have to deal with problems most of the playerbase doesn’t.
The ones im talking about are mostly making stuff up to make heroes they dont like seem broken.
They make claims about top ranks that are simply not true. They even started gaslighting the community about things in the past that are not true, to make it seem brig is broken.
Im actually thinking of making a long list of factual errors being spread by these streamers.
             
            
              
              
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              It seems some people put all the blames on sTrEaMeRs, like they started all the things, like the hate against HLC/Paris, etc.
But I saw those move far before some streamers said. Those streamers just represented the people if it seems there are enough people having the same opinion.
             
            
              
              
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              Targeting Brig was literally gone from the community until it was started by a few streamers weeks ago. Now the claims are parroted word for word from those streamers.
And the claims made were made up about her performance to make her seem broken. All stats on top ranks/owl prove them wrong.
             
            
              
              
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Technically streamers are a sort of free advertisement which is why companies often do give them special treatment or early access, I know with Hearthstone they sometimes get streamers to do card reveals as one example
That being said I’m completely against streamers having any say in balance as it’s quite clear with streamers like that Samito guy they have no idea what they’re talking about, or at least these forums make it out that way, I have no interest in watching him and wouldn’t know about him if it wasnt for this place
             
            
              
              
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              The real childish behavior is the forumers blaming dps players for ruining their precious tank and support heroes.
Forumers are already louder than streamers.
             
            
              
              
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Yeah I was wondering from where are those brig threads started coming all the sudden when she was totally trash just a month ago.
             
            
              
              
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They actually do.
Only little problem is that they try to make game fun to watch. Not to play.