If the devs created OW2, who created the universe?

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It takes a group of people to design, create & balance a relatively small creation like OW2.

So there must also be an intelligence that designs, creates and maintains our universe.

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If thatā€™s the case then their balance team is trash.

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First is was just Jeff. He floated in empty universe alone. Then he said : Overwatch.

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I donā€™t know what exactly makes you think that any ā€œintelligenceā€ was involved in the creation of OW2 to begin with.

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Hereā€™s something I thought of Once you comprehend the size of the universe the true size not just its big not just its gigantic

You look at the sun see thereā€™s millions upon millions upon millions billions upon billions trillions of suns like ours some just as big some 100000 times bigger and there are also a lot of those and even then Im still downplaying the size of the universe exponentially.

You have 2 options, such a being would need to be so powerful it defies the known like laws of reality itself an eldritch horror that even trying to comprehend would drive one to insanity.

Or such a being simply dosenā€™t exist and the universe just is the way it is.

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The first is more believable than the second.

The first certainly shows our humanity since we canā€™t comprehend it -how powerful such a Creator is. The second seems silly, because then I would have to believe everything came from nothing.

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The universe also does not have to abid by human rules something coming from nothing is a limitation we set to justify the other oneā€¦

But the universe itself dosenā€™t have to care, it be literally on the same level as a god.

Thereā€™s also previous universe theory where its just an endless loop of past universes that may or may not link back with each other

Quantum fluctuation theory.

The theory that everything was just already there period and didnā€™t come from anything.

And the multiverse theory

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I meanā€¦the universe is still a thing. A creation. It isnā€™t a god.

(Not sure how much we can even talk about this without getting banned. Mods donā€™t seem to like it in my experience. I just find it fascinating and like to talk about.)

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This is just a regular conversation I hope they donā€™t go freaking insane.

We consider it ā€œJust a thingā€ the things in it rather are whats ā€œJust a thingā€ things governed by the speed of light gravity causation effects etc.

We are the ā€œThingsā€ spacetime is the rules themselves.

Hence why only the expansion of space can violate the rules of general relativity. The thing setting the boundrais in the first place (Like the speed of light) dosenā€™t have to abid by them.

Its more like fundemental principles of the universe rather then things within it.

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I guess that depends on what you want to believe.

Personally, it takes a lot more faith for me to believe that everything just isā€¦ as opposed to everything was created by something.

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D.Va

D.Va is all around us

xD

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I only know all this because I have been having a craaaappp ton of conversations with chatgpt.

Thereā€™s plenty of like other theories of where else the universe could have came from, even ones that align with your belief where it didnā€™t exactly come from ā€œNothingā€ or some where it just always was period.

I respect your faith tho :slight_smile: because we have no way of onowing which of the 100ths of theories are right or wrong tbh.

I came up with my own conclusion once I tried to like truly grasp the sheer size of the universe in its entirety.

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I donā€™t know who or what created the universe, but I do know that it made a lot of people very unhappy and has widely been regarded as a bad move.

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One of the popular cosmology hypothesis postulated that the collision of two or more 11th dimensional objects caused the big bang, which in turn created our universe. If this is true, then big bangs and new universes are being created all the time, but we cannot see them since they exist outside of our perceived reality.

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I think about that question a lot. Maybe too much for my own good. It fills me with a sense of dread kinda. Like, have you ever thought about what the universe is expanding into? Its expanding into nothing, and that just makes sense somehow. Idk. But in a several decades (hopefully), Iā€™ll be dead and Iā€™ll go right back to not existing, so this wont bother me anymore. Yay.

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This is always so cool to think of. It really fills you with a sense of wonder!

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It was the one and only

Winton

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Look around you. Does anything look maintained?

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Ok then tell me. What is nothing.

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The lack of existence.