If Mercy manages to get a rez off, it's a tank diff

There is no universe where Mercy should get a rez off while your tank is alive. It is your tank’s responsibility to move in and hold the space where the dead enemy is to prevent Mercy from going near it and using rez.

The only time that becomes a hard proposition is if it’s like a mile away and you can’t realistically get there before she gets the rez off. Or if she is in Valk where it becomes much harder to stop her (which is fine, because it’s an ultimate, it’s supposed to be impactful).

I am so tired of seeing bad tank players let Mercy get a rez off. When I play tank, I will straight up run at the Mercy when her teammates die to scare her off and I will camp the body and make it clear she is not getting a rez except over my dead body.

9 times out of 10, rez is a skill issue that lies solely on your tank. I never complain about that ability when I am playing tank, because I have the sense to move in aggressively when we get a pick and hold that space to deny it.

If you play tank and you think rez is broken, it is a skill issue.

I can understand if you are a DPS or Support, because you are squishy and you have to risk overextending to deny the rez. As a tank, you go wherever the hell you please and it is literally your JOB to take and hold space.

A lot of kills are from a distance where Mercy can safely get that rez off, often from out of LoS.

Right, but enemy tanks can also hold the space to facilitate Mercy getting off the rez.

That is very much not true. There’s all manner of ways you could die, get cc’d, or get displaced away from the body.

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Except for the distance arguement, the other points don’t stand.

If your team gets a pick and you are playing tank, you HAVE to move in aggressively and capitalize on the advantage. If you sit back and make excuses, then you are just letting Mercy get value.

The only role in the game that affords you the luxury of pressing W and not risking instant death is tank.

If the enemy tank wants to try and stop you, you ignore them and still press W. Your team has a numbers advantage. If you let the enemy tank stop you, then you are worse than them and like I said, it’s a tank diff.

Unless they have a Bastion who is gunning you down in sentry form, you press W and don’t look back.

Maybe it’s because I play Orisa and Zarya and can just press a button and walk where I please, but the enemy tank can’t stop me unless they kill me or I let them stop me.

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Heavily dissagree no amount of damage can make a tank ko a mercy rez, it can be done only if she has sustained damaged prior or during the rez but not the tank alone, not to mention it only takes a few shots from a dps and/or a support from a safe distance, she will be imobile enough for anyone who can headshot her (theoretically). So in no mind it is expected for a tank to deny a rez, you have tools to displaced and zone but those options are for the most part not available if the battle becomes to hectic and your resources are falling thin, any good mercy can easily read the situation and take advantage of those cds to succeed in the rez.
Most tanks will use those tools for engaging and disenging, you can easily keep a steady pace if you know your tanks limits, but just because you can pull it off doesn’t mean you can consistently pull it off, same goes for other tanks, this types of requirements aren’t limited to one role but a team effort, a tank role is to secure space and deny space, denying a rez isn’t a requirement for a tank but for the player, if you are a dps/tank/support you all must pay attention to the rez this isn’t a role specific thing its a more a gamesense and awareness type of a expierence. You can easily do this with any role and get the same result.

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I disagree with this assessment.

Just about every tank in the roster has the damage to nuke Mercy during her rez animation or CC her to stop her mid-rez.

If it happens a mile away, then I don’t expect the tank to do anything, unless they hit an amazing Orisa spear on her from a mile away while she is rezzing.

Denying a rez you are close enough to deny, is absolutely an objective. This whole game revolves around getting kills to push your team to victory, there is no easier path to victory in this game than winning through numbers. So it becomes incredibly important that as the tank (the only role in the game who has the tools to take and hold space) that you do not let the enemy take your advantage and flip it on it’s head.

Yes, it is preferable for your DPS and Support to shoot her and not let her get the rez, but there are too many angles and LOS tricks Mercy can abuse and exploit to get a cheeky rez off that your support and dps can’t adjust to in time to stop her.

The only solution is for your tank to go and deny her the space to work. At best, she fails the attempt, at worst, she gets the rez off but trades her life for it, which is still an advantage for your team.

As a tank player, you should be conditioned to press W the second your team gets a pick.
Even more urgently if they have a Mercy.

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And would you happen to be a tank main?

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I play tank as much as any other role, have atleast 1000+ games on tank, stretching all the way back to OW1 beta. So no, I don’t call myself a “tank main” but I am as comfortable in the role as I am on DPS and Support.

Counterpoint; if you as a Mercy can’t get a rez off, it’s a support diff.

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Oh yes my widow won the duel across the map. I as sigma must rocket boost all the way over there to stop the mercy res

Let’s look at some more legit examples
Numbani you take top left and your Hanzo picks off the enemy sniper. If I’m Winston sure I’ll jump in to help focus down the mercy (if I have resources to) but if she gets that off it’s not my fault at all. I’m not going to die for a pick onto a mercy as a tank.

Resurrect as a whole is a problem that…could be addressed any time. It’s simply too powerful in a pick oriented 5v5 overwatch. Given mercy isn’t hard meta at the moment though this can be held off

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It partially is in a way.
Alot of support players don’t realize they need to pocket their Mercy when she is rezzing.

If your Mercy is goin for a rez, then you need to stop whatever you are doing as the other support and protect/pocket her.

Same way if you are playing Mercy and your Moira or Illari is ulting, you treat them like a DPS and pocket them during the ult.

Tons of small mistakes support players make like the above that differentiate good supports from bad supports.

Just about every tank in the roster has the damage to nuke Mercy during her rez animation or CC her to stop her mid-rez.

It takes about 1.75 secs for a mercy to rez somebody meaning you would have to take down 200hp in a matter of that time frame, a tank can dish out high damage, but they don’t have the burst to kill a mercy in that time frame, you would have to pull around 114 damage per sec (my math could be wrong as im doing it by head so you can correct if i am wrong) and then only then you would succesfully kill her, which means her rez is most likely going to be pulled off, if she had taken prior damage before the rez before it even starts you have a chance, but if that animition begins its all up to the dps and support at this point, having the tools to javelin comes from orisa cd and those are tools that are often used you would have to be in the right conditions to be able to consistently deny a mercy with a ability, or just time it right at the cost of something, But like i said before it is unrealistic to expect a tank to the job when a dps or a support can do it too and faster.
Im also not adding the account if she gets healed, a tank doesn’t have the damage to burst anything they deal high damage on a long period of time but are no where near the threat to 2 tap anyone roadhog may be an exeption but he isn’t the rule.

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115 to be safe, with 114 she would live with 0.5 hp

It’s not just about denying the rez, it’s about getting value in return for her trying to get it off.

The rez concerns everything from the moment she steps up to the body, to the full animation, to her looking around for someone else to fly to and then taking off.

All of that is more than 1.75sec. In that time, if you know what you are doing, then short of another support pumping massive heals into her, killing her or CC’ing her is more than feasible.

It’s ok if she got the rez off but traded her life for it. It’s not ok to let her attempt it without risking her life or the cooldown.

Which is my point. You need to step up and posture to kill her if she attempts it. EVEN if she attempts it in the middle of her team. Because now you are forcing a teamfight where they are at a disadvantage in terms of numbers.

Unless they have the means to melt you like a Bastion, then you press W and make it clear that they are risking a team wipe if they want to force that rez.

And I’ve already mentioned that if it happens from a mile away, then you realistically can’t do anything about it. But most dead bodies are within walking distance of both tanks, I know this because I have been playing this game for years.

Actually, it’s the responsibility of anyone nearby to simply be aware, and I prefer it’s the dps who can easily shoot her from afar. Nobody needs to be right on top of Mercy to swat her away.

And as a role overall, tanks are probably least equipped to stop a rez. One of my favorite moves is to do a rez right in a tank’s face or right over their head because they are often too busy dpsing something to notice me doing this from the air.

And that tanks can “go anywhere” is also why it should be the DPS responsibility to just shoot the floating butterfly.

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You could be playing for decades and it would still be unrealistic for a tank to constantly deny a rez, you become disconected with reality by having unrealistic expectations for being a slightly better player, not everyone plays the same, and the tanks roles as it is currently being played is by securing and denying space, not secure killing, ult denying, cd management, and ult economy those are gamesense things and those should be only be related by a persons gamesense not a role job.

Meh, Zarya can bubble Mercy, and suddenly your whole team is out of position.

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You always have to assume that if you don’t personally stop her from rezzing,no one will.

A DPS or Support camping a body is a risk because they are squisher and have no CC or damage mitigation. Which means you are risking death by moving in and occupying an area to deny rez. It is easier and feasible for a tank, because when one tank moves forward, either your own tank steps up and holds the space or your entire team moves back.

Tanks are more equipped to deal with rez than any other role. You pointed out that the tanks you rez in front of don’t look at you, that simply points out that they are terrible tank players for not prioritizing a Mercy who is overextending for a rez.

DPS players can’t do anything about a Mercy who hides around a corner and uses rez. A tank can walk up and claim that entire corner for their team. There is a very clear distinction.

I just see too many tank players complain that rez is broken, when tank as a role has all the CC and damage needed to stop it from happening. Or atleast getting a kill on the Mercy in return for the rez.

If kiriko suzu rez nothing you can do and valk makes it pretty easy to rez unless you have a cc/boop on the tank you’re playing

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It’s everyone’s job to stop the rez, with some emphasis on the player who killed the target getting the Rez because they know instantly where the rez will happen.

Take responsibility for the game changing plays yourself, regardless of what role you’re on. BUT don’t die trying to stop a rez. Your life is the most important thing in the games you play and should never be traded.