I was falsely banned for cheats or hacks

Because people like me use the terms interchangeably when we mean alt accounts.

And yet that’s exactly what it is, a stretch. They’ve said countless times they don’t action for alt accounts dude.

True. It’s a garbage system, but players like yourself are happy so I guess it’s the bed Blizzard has made.

You also have a deckful of banned smurf accounts? Imagine my shock.

Nope. Getting actioned makes further actioning take less reports. Once you pass the report threshold, it takes time to return your account to the baseline state. This guy passed that threshold on more than one account.

No one cares about alts, and no one reports for an “alt” in game, either. Again, it’s not about having more than one account. You can pretend these words (“alt” and “smurf”) are interchangable, but they are not. They mean different things.

I’m happy to farm the seethe from “players like yourself”, it’s true. Thank you for your contribution.

No? I said people like me that use the term interchangeably. Boy you DO like to stretch don’t you?

What are you basing that on though?

People do care. People do report. You’re crying about them right now. To you smurf means playing in low ranks to stomp noobs. This guy said he was playing on an alt (called it a smurf) to play with friends.

Reaching again. I’m not seething, I’m trying to impart a bit of sense into someone that might be deranged.

He’s not you, though. So unless you relate to his activity, why compare and insert your personal opinion by saying “people like me”?

Dev posts about how Defence Matrix functions.

This is not a personal definition of mine. Google will tell you the same thing.

He called it a smurf. What is the point of paraphrasing a quote if you think the words mean the same thing? It comes off as disingenuous.

You’re mad the report system in a video game doesn’t work how you want it to and you post to defend other people whose smurf accounts were hammered because you’re so mad about it. You’re telling me “you’re garbage but you’re happy, good for you” like a paggro ex gf. That’s genuine seethe, baby. :farmer:

most Mouse/keyboard software triggers it if you use it for custom keybinds, and for good reason… this software enables the use of 3rd party scripts to automate/macro skill combos, remove recoil, aim locking, trigger botting ect.

100% behind this after seeing some of these “Macros” for hog instant 3 hit, had a hog who could not hit anything but the second they hit chain connected chain trap blast melee instantly, never missed that combo.

warden is so broken it cant tell a legit program from a cheat program i think one company threatened blizzard with a massive anti trust lawsuit and got them to remove bans caused my their software running…automation of thigns needs to stop

Yup, and that goes for gamers as well. If people would stop using legit 3rd party software to do things the developers do not want done then they would not get banned.

The game lets you change keybinds in it for a reason, so you do not need 3rd party software. unfortunately people are just trash so they use these 3rd party softwares to make macros/anti recoil/bots which all violate ToS so the software gets flagged, innocents get banned and everyone blames Blizzard and not the ones at the root of the problem… the hackers.

With no way to tell who is or isn’t hacking with it they blanket ban anyone who uses the software to do any keybinds. if they detect input from the software you are banned. don’t blame them seeing they give you the keybind option in OW you have no reason to use 3rd party software to do it, and that is why Eula says you are not allowed to use 3rd party software with the game.

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people get cheat software to ruin thigns for others as they dont want to learn how to play legit on here…honestly aaron keller needs to be fired hoenstly tongiht if the freakign worst night sicne that stupid patch i think they done things to dva they didnt even mention…but it wouldnt surprise ma s aaron si a trash director

I remember them talking about a lot of things. Not the part you’re speaking about. What threshold, how much does it lower by, what duration to return to a baseline? And none of that is being actioned on one account and then being hardware banned on alt accounts. So yeah, I’m curious WHICH dev post you think is saying that.

THis is you reaching again. I understand how someone might say smurf or alt interchangeably beacuse it happens all the time.

Especially in gm, we all have alt accounts but more than anything you call it your “smurf” - it isn’t for stomping lower ranks, they’re almost always practice accounts or to group with friends, but they still regularly get called “smurfs”.

It’s common these days. If you want to split hairs about the traditional definition you can, but don’t paint it as me “engaging in the same activity” that you think OP is doing unless that activity is having alt accounts.

No it comes off as seeing what someone is trying to say when they might not have said it in the best way or literal enough for some people (like you) to understand the issue.

In a sense, I guess. I don’t like automated account actions with no appeal based off one of the saltiest and hypocritical communities to exist in gaming, no.

“other people” implies I’ve had a “smurf” account actioned, which I have not. I post to offer up the point of view that you jumped right past because you have an axe to grind against people with multiple accounts.

… what? I said it’s a garbage system because there’s no context, no review and it is easily abused by people like yourself. :person_shrugging: I know it’s probably more enjoyable for you to imagine me seething in rage over it, but I’m not. I just think it’s bad. A lot of OW2 is bad.


Oranges, I jsut realized I was calling StarIX the “OP”. I mean Star, not the guy that created the thread, if that was confusing you.

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Smurfing isn’t a bannable offense. They wouldn’t ban you for that

We as players don’t have specific numbers, but the threshold has been mentioned by devs in several areas relating to account actioning. Leavers, toxic chat, etc.

Defense Matrix Update: Season 10 and Beyond - News - Overwatch (blizzard.com)

Defense Matrix Season 9 Update – Endorsing Positive Players - News - Overwatch (blizzard.com)

One report will not ban an account, and the first action for a new (emphasis for key word) player will never be a full ban. (Unless they’re cheating? Not sure about that specific case.) There is a threshold of reports across multiple matches that you must pass in order to be actioned at all, this is confirmed specifically in that second link.

“When a player is reported across multiple matches, we will take action to suspend or silence those players and will notify them by email when we do. If necessary, we ban repeat offenders from playing on that account.”

As for the kinds of information they log on you, try requesting your data from account settings. If you currently don’t believe they can track you across accounts I think you’ll find it very eye-opening.

Unless StarIX is you on your newest smurf, you can’t be putting your words in his mouth. What do you mean, “people like me”? He’s a complete stranger with 2 posts. You have no idea who this person is or what he thinks about the semantics argument we’re having right now.

My source on the definition of “smurf” is Google and your source of anecdotal evidence means nothing to me when my own experience disagrees with it.

When we’re “splitting hairs” about searchable definitions of words and you have already acknowledged that I don’t see those words as meaning the same thing, incorrectly quoting the wrong words to better support your argument is very bad form. I’m already aware you think he meant “alt”, but that’s not what he typed. Quotes deserve accuracy.

… “Other people” only implies that they are people who aren’t you. Which you seem to be having trouble determining in general.

Then why are you here? Surely not because you believe your posts will make a difference.

Thank you for the clarification, I understood. :+1:

NONE of this is what you said. I already know all that (talked about it in plenty of threads). No one questions there’s a threshold that has to be reached then you get actioned. Everything else you mentioned - that it decays over a long enough duration to a baseline or that each action is a lower threshold and all that is the question mark. People have surmised that’s how it works.

True. I inferred it from his comment. Just as I inferred from yours.

That isn’t what that’s for. It’s quoting your terms with your definitions as you see them. :unamused:

Splitting hairs again. I said it IN CASE you meant it that way and I could clarify it ahead of time.

What? lol

It’s interesting sometimes. Watch the fire sometimes. Confirm my suspicions about a large part of the playerbase. Lots of reasons.

Which bundled peripheral software enables aim lock and trigger bots? Not saying you’re wrong but I am curious as to which.

Right. My smurf account “Fraudkuna” is actually ranked higher than my main right now lol

It blows my mind… can’t be too mad I guess. Small Indie company yk?