you only think this because you or your teammates don’t understand how to function without out rectangle man
in reality, a competent Winston slays at mid ranks since they have little to no concept of peeling; their support just dies then yells at DPS in chat. You don’t even need your own support so long as you can shield dance and get out alive.
The only downside is that because you have no rectangle man, instead of rubbing two brain cells together and figuring out natural cover exists, your teammates will have a competition to see who can catch the most bullets with their face. This makes the challenge of playing Winston to get some value/a pick or two before your teammates can throw the fight.
I’m kidding, in lower ranks, he’s quite powerful (because people can’t take care of him), so I understand, but shouldn’t people begin to understand what to do against him?
i dont know about tracer being A tier in 2000 SR range. i would put her C for that tier. i never really have a problem with her especially if i switch to another hero to counter her. also i see you have widow a bit high… C tier in that range too
I love picking apart tier lists and “Perfect Patch Notes” so if I am a negative nancy allot I am sorry feel free to hate on my takes and its all in good fun right?
nah
Rein kinda sucks right now
his shield still melts
only S tier hero is Tracer right now because she is still broken
none of these heroes are really meta I would say but they all are good
most I would argue don’t really need changes but Ana, Solider, Tracer
Solider I wish they removed 5 ammo from clip, Ana I wish they nerfed Sleep
and Tracer I wish they nerfed allot of stuff that I am too lazy to list out right now
once again all these heroes are good I would bump hanzo up one and then nerf storm arrows to balance him, Ashe I would power shift and give her reverse falloff or something or just nerf mercy and buff her primary
doom is…problematic but hes not op he just isnt fun to play against
D.va is kind of a bit strong right now but its not really a big deal
echo genji junk all fine
Mercy I would nerf Damage Boost and GA
damage boost causes too many problems its time for a nerf to it
and mercy is way too mobile
a 1 second nerf will not kill her
ok time for something I know is a super hot take
Reaper is a bit strong
his spread buff was really good for him then reaper mains started complaining about not being a tank buster anymore (when they still were)
and they buffed the crap out of him
all true and fine
I would move sombra down to niech though
she is one of the 3 super niech heroes though shes the least niech of the 3
ill get to the other 2 later
so I haven’t really talked about order because it just looks alphabetical but, Orisa is the worst tank then ball
ball just can’t do anything on his own anymore
he cannot solo kill anybody anymore especially if they have any armor making brigitte a hard counter
but orisa is just worst
Torb is above average he is actually pretty good when you play him right
Sym is the second hero in the niech trifecta but she’s fine
Phara should have her fuel buff reverted
Moira Mei are fine even though Mei is not fun to play against as a tank
and Brig is above average I would put her where you put meta picks
she is really good and I can elaborate if you want to know why
ahh yes the third of the niech
ok I will explain it now
the 3 niech heroes are Sombra, Symmetra and Bastion
all these heroes need a comp built around them and other than bastion they all are fine.
luckily bastion and sombra are getting reworks in ow2 to make them not be in this catagory
other fun thing about this catagory
all 3 of these heroes are super oppressive to tanks…yay
ok so now the comps these heroes need
Bastion needs a bunker comp built around him
Symmetra needs a Rush comp built around her
and Sombra needs a dive comp built around her to get maximum value out of her.
if you read all that thanks. I know I was a bit nitpicky but these are just my takes I mean no hate.
Surprised to see a player of your rank (no offence) actually know how bad bastion is and that he is not the anti christ but other then rein this is a pretty good list.
Yeah, I’ve played him a bunch and he’s just not good. He’s too easy to counter if he plays alone and if his entire team is using all their resources to protect him they either slay or get bodied.
I used to be gold support and then turned QP warrior but ‘meta’ never changes here… So I am gonna say this, Brigitte is definitely A tier, especially with how popular genji is
Also, Moira rolls in this tier I think. Basically, I don’t any support should be below B tier, they are pretty balanced imo