I want Widow and Hanzo's "identities" assassinated

Just like they did to Sombra. She is so far from what she initially was, what initially made people enjoy playing her. She is now a completely different character, A utility dps they tried to turn into another assassin. The community and the devs have decided her initial feel doesn’t matter, her initial playstyles don’t matter, her initial identity and even reasons for picking her (being the character to reliably reduce ability spam but not be super offensive) doesn’t matter, The initial Sombra players don’t matter.

Hero identity is not an excuse anymore I want Widow and Hanzo’s “ohk primary” identities to be assassinated as well. It doesn’t matter if they’re worse versions of other characters afterwards, They also “ruin” games, they are also annoying, that’s apparently reason enough regardless of stats or where they are in the meta.

Edit: It’s funny seeing some of you reply with the same garbage gaslighting and are missing the point which is literally in the second sentence and last paragraph. It’s not about her lethality or strength, she’s not the same character. It’s not about infinite invis or even reverting hack to the same ability it originally was, it’s about the character being warped into another kind of dps and having her original playstyle and identity assassinated and it feels extra stupid when they just buffed Hanzo back to preserve his (and defended Widow’s as well). Sombra wasn’t designed to be an assassin type of damage character yet they are trying to change her into one, we don’t need another one of those and her mains never asked for it.

It’s like if they changed and warped Pharah’s kit to play more like Torb or Sym and become a builder instead of a flyer, if they warped Mei’s kit away from a what it is into a flyer like Echo or even into a squishy flanker like Tracer. It’s not about giving it time or realizing she’s “stronger” at all, this is not the same kind of character people grew fond of playing in OW1, warping her into a worse, clunkier version of other characters is not the solution and never was the solution. It’s also time they stop listening to bad sombra players, non-sombra players, and stupid people about what they think Sombra should be, they will “adapt” to any sombra playstyle and have defended each garbage rework decision anyway.

They’ve shown that character identities can be completely changed because of complaining, regardless of how strong the character is or how much they are played, Widow and Hanzo being stronger, being complained about a lot, being player much more, and being meta much more, warrants their identity assassination as well, especially if it’s their primary OHK like Blizz believes. And the one silver lining about what did they to sombra is hopefully people start complaining about Widow enough to get it to happen to her.

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This is exactly what I was afraid of happening when they open the floodgates to such BS

They deserve all the harsh criticism.
It goes against their very own philosophy, well “went”.

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Or we could not do that and instead just go back to what Sombra players like? and give an in-game message that is literally just one giant middle finger to anyone who complained. Complainers genuinely are subcreatures who shouldn’t be allowed in society.

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In addition to ruining Sombra they also took Ramattra’s identity for no good reason. Honestly I don’t care if it’s stronger or weaker, it’s not who he is.

So, yeah, I’m done. Remove all 1-shots. I don’t care if they ruin Hanzo and Widow. Apparently ruining characters is now on the table. Do it!

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They will never do that to the snipers of this game, for a few reasons.

  1. They are popular streamer picks. Income is important, and you don’t hurt your flagship characters.

  2. The game revolves around snipers at a higher level. Have you ever truly looked at map design in OW2, and or the hero balance changes? Have you ever noticed that: Ana, Hanzo, and WM never get truly gutted. Let alone tweaked in a way in which tones them down dramatically, without major compensation buffs? Should speak for itself.

  3. The sniper based characters are cash cows for the people who buy up cosmetics. You have the archer Japanese guy, with dragons and all of that going on Hanzo). You have the girl with is constantly meme’d about, and is put in numerous NSFW context, and the wholesome old lady who is known for being the mommy figure.

Keep in mind that those 3 characters, but especially Ana and WM have been complained about heavily since the early days of OW1. And they still never been truly knocked down a peg. Despite their performance and pick rate.

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Hanzo really that much of a problem?

Hanzo has always been a problem in OW. Always. Literally as far back as OW1 when he has his “Scatter Arrow”. He has ALWAYS been an issue. He even developed the nickname of “Spamzo” over the years, because of his play style. And then them giving him his replacement to “Scatter Arrow” further supported the “Spamzo” stereotype. Now he has his 1-shot back, and there’s the blatant shenanigans going on regarding projectile accuracy in this game. You tell me if he’s a problem.

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He’s only a problem for bad players, specially, if you complain about Spamzo lol. That doesn’t mean he can’t take over games but it doesn’t happen nowhere as consistent as you all imply.

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Any hero can legitimately spam with a weapon. Arrows are size of a log? Of course when heroes hit boxes are insanely big.

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See the thing is sombra is salvagable through balance patches. Her core identity still exists. Hack still is there, so is stealth, and so is translocator it just needs tweaking. We need to see where this rework goes for her instead of jumping at her obviously flawed start.

Ramattra on the other hand is flat out stupid. No one cared about him punching through shields, it wasn’t ever a problem. The biggest problem about ramattra is his survivability during nemesis form.

They removed a core part of his identity that wasn’t problematic while leaving the only actual problematic part of him untouched.

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What I really don’t get in these kinds of threads is why Blizzard dev changes are suddenly excuses for Ramattra players to resent Reinhardt players, Sombra players resenting Widow and Hanzo players, so on and so forth.

Honestly, if you don’t like these changes, take it up with the Blizzard devs or OW influencers/pro community that the devs listen to. For the Ram changes, none of the casual player base asked for it, so it’s probably streamers and the OW pro community (esports players, coaches, and the like) who recommended the changes.

On the Sombra changes, what Blizzard did is to change perma-stealth into semi-perma-stealth. At 5 seconds on a 7-second cooldown, Sombra stealth is up 70% of the time at most. I don’t consider Sombra to be “assassinated”, in fact I feel that Sombra can still grief a lot with this kind of semi-perma-stealth, it just won’t be as easy as before.

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The shimmadas will rise again , dragons cannot be slain

Muahahahahaha :japanese_ogre:

Anime Power bro :muscle:

See the shimmadas when their hero was ruined we knew what was our identity some of us fought, many didnt even fight, cause we know we were wronged and things will be right once again.

With sombra what is your identity, one guy is telling to increase foot steps, a few want utility oriented sombra, some support sombra, many are liking the change, but quite a number of you have been just cringe abusing at every other hero main.

Crass behaviour honestly and lame.

None of you can speak about actual issues in the rework without gross exaggeration.

The rework at most needs a speed passive like tracer or genji.

It works well, if you are indeed totally unhappy with the direction, actually make post talking about what your hero identity is. Cause no one can find out.

Which is why these changes which atleast solve the passiveness of her kit and make her active has been done.

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Hanzo is straight garbage. What are you talking about?.

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Why are you firing off at widows and hanzos tho

Screw it. Don’t stop with them. Assassinate EVERYONE’S identities. Destroy this game. Show them all how it feels.

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I hate Sombra with a passion, but she did not deserve such a treatment. In fact, no character deserves such a treatment. Every hero has a fan base and they must not have their hero destroyed.

signed a Widowmaker main

Hanzo wants a word with you.

do the same with Reinhard.
should be fun. remove barriet, and armor.

do the same with mercy, moira, lucio. go on.do it.

no more identidy of beeing a easy hero, make the required to headshot, no ez heals or dmg boost, put GA on a actuall cd. ruin these heroes just because i say so.

ruin junkrat no more crazy bomb guy, make him a support.

guess he got diffed and couldn’t swap to sombra?

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Sombra is literally fine. A poor mercy on the enemy team was killed 25 times by her in one comp game I was playing.

I will find you if this occurs
:wink:

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