If you can’t beat them join them. Anyone know of any good guides online or tips before i get into the jungle. He is not that hard to play but i get the feeling there is more to him than meets the eye. Cause aiming those bouncy projectiles of his must take some degree of aim. I recently realised that exploiting that bounce can allow him to do damage out of the enemy LOS (this is what pisses the community off the most lol".
Any advise would be good.
Sure.
Load up Overwatch. Choose Junkrat. Put cat on keyboard. Make a sandwich. Come back to PotG.
With Junkrat, I was originally a Spamrat (which only sat in one spot and shot onto the point for the entire match), don’t be like this. My advice is that movement and map awareness are key. Make sure to keep an eye out for your biggest counters: Genji, Pharah, and D.Va are my main ones. Also try to keep in cover, Junkrat doesn’t do too well in open spaces. Try to keep at least one mine for escaping, and use the steel trap on areas that you’ve noticed people pass through. As for the tire, that’s a little different, what I recommend is that you wait for someone else to ult or to attack the point. This means they will be distracted and you might be able to get 2-4 kills if you’re lucky.
Final warning, Junkrat can’t take much damage, so if you have to break away, do so. Getting overconfident is a bad thing with Junkrat.
lol, thanks mate. I kinda feel like there should be a disclaimer here otherwise the world is about to see its first “I lost my SR Lawsuit”.
Hehe, well, the joke would be on them since technically you can’t have another person play your account. Put that cat on the witness stand!
People tend to think Junk is ezmode, which he somewhat is, but only because other players are stupid enough to run into his line of fire. The whole point of Junk is area of denial. Spam those choke points, spam one of the ways onto a point etc.
Tip #1: Go into training mode, and try hitting the moving robots only by hitting other things around you first.
Tip #2: Learn to use your mines for traversal, and landing on top of people, do damage, and mine out again. You jump with a mine, then in the air throw your trap on top of or in the middle of the enemy team, shoot a few grenades and mine out again. Also use training to learn to aim your mines.
Tip #3: Predict. Kinda hard to learn per say, but you can kinda learn this just by observing your own team when attacking/defending, and watching the enemy team. You’ll learn where and when most characters decide to go someplace. Example, Hanzo and Genji almost always goes through the little perch on the side of Hanamuras first choke. Trap, mine, boom, dead. The most satisfying kills with Junk are the ones that the enemy usually doesn’t expect, and which can be done without even making them aware that you’re there.
Tip #4 when using your ult, get the first kill you can if you haven’t got a plan for it. Most of the time I use it to spread the enemy so my team can thin the herd. Sometimes I use it because I saw several people clustered together, but when the wheel gets there, they’re gone, just search out the first one you see and detonate. Better to get one kill, than lose the wheel. Also, stal the wheel before going in for the kill, make the enemy panic before it comes.
Tip #5, when pushing, and there are shields, spam shields, and actually run onto the face of the shielder (Rein, Orisa), you do a lot of damage that way, and if it gets hairy, just mine out. Always mine out.
Good luck though. ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=5" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
Junk is a really fun character to play when you know how to play him, and just ignore everyone saying he’s “easy” to play. He’s not the hardest, but not the easiest either, specially if you want to use him to his full potential.
Wow some really good advise. thanks all. And its just good to have a thread about the spam-god and people are not tilted.
When I swapped to PC I used JR, as I have a nerve condition that makes it difficult to fine aim with a mouse (shaking a controller isn’t as detrimental as shaking a mouse) and I got pretty good with em, I feel. As much as I loathe saying that, because I really do hate the character.
Area denial is a good thing, so firing into well traveled places or where you believe the team to be coming from is always good for ult charge–but don’t stand still, as Spirit said. If you’re on defense, put your trap down in an area you think they’re coming and ‘patrol’ between that and another area. This way if someone does hit your trap, you’re close enough to get the pick, but not so close that they see you and start checking for traps.
Genji is your counter, but they LOVE to dash. Ironically, trap stops them. Use it if ya got it, and giggle. I’ve SEEN JR double mine up and kill a Pharah, but I ain’t that good. But I HAVE seen it, lol. But generally avoid her like the plague, and have a roof over your head if she’s in play. Consider switching if she really is giving you trouble, don’t be that guy.
And finally, DVA. She will wreck you, but you CAN play smart against her: Many DVA will use the matrix because many JR will try and mine her away, thus eating your mine. Try baiting her matrix with your primary fire and using your mines as mobility to lead her towards other teammates, if you find yourself 1v1 her for whatever reason.
These are just some tips to help dealing with your counters, but remember, they’re your counters and you won’t win every engagement.
You’re welcome. Almost forgot, learn the maps (make your own match and just memorize everything), learn where high points and spam points can be set up and learn where the health packs are, all of them (can’t stress this enough). This is great for trapping, controlling and also so you can top off your own health. One thing I’ve learned with Junk is to not burdon my healers since I’m pretty much a magnet for damage when I play him. So I try keeping the healers free to heal the important teammates, not me.
In addition to what others had said, the last one is probably to look at those GM Junkrats and see how they play.
I recommend Prolikechro on Twitch, he’s a GM-top 500 Junkrat only. His style of playing is quite out of the norm but he’s very good at it.
In addition, there’s also PvPtwitch, another Junkrat main. Similar to chro but he also switches to sold/tracer.
Yes there is much more than meets the eye. Junkrat does not have a really high skill ceiling but people that are good with him do more than just spam grenades. If you are spamming grenades it should not be looking for a Hanzo kill. It should be to deny space or create space. If you do it for any other reason you’re doing it wrong.
Mobility is not as easy as it seems, which is what the concussive mines are for, partially. A concussive mine can create pure chaos done well, it can put a great distance between you and the enemy, it hurts when you blow it up in their face, and it’s a form of uncontrolled CC, like when you blow up Reinhardt to high ground. Trap is also a good cc provided you place it well. Riptire is not as easy as people think. It still gets shot down allot, even though you drove to your target over every building. (Which causes the riptire to barely make any sound)
Junkrat is very much a reflex hero, he does well in small spaces, never follow a Junkrat into a little room lol When Pharah comes out to play it time to put Junkrat away, or in some case piss her the hell off by killing her. Some people are stubborn, I usually change when Pharah is out. He is my main but Junkrat mains should be able to flex. Unless you are Chro/Jake or Rag Tagg, I am sure that there are others that are really good at him.
I know what I should do to play him well. That being said knowing and doing are 2 different things. Team comp or competence also still dictates how well you will do with Junk. Unless your Chro or Jake, who can carry people on JR. Positioning is still important, very important. You will do much better at JR if you put surviving above kills. Kills will come no matter what. It’s very easy to overextend with him when you’re blowing the enemy up. (I still catch myself doing it).
Good Luck
Oh yeah neat PvP I started watching he also plays Hearthstone which i also like so. TY
Some of the most satisfying kills I have is killing an airborne Pharah with mine/grenade. Can also be used to kill both Hanzo and Widow. Just mine jump over where they are, and mine/grenade them to death.
PS. Also, use your ult to take out Pharah and Valk Mercy. The Ult has a high ceiling and climbs like nobody’s business.
Also, totally agree on when to not play Junk. He’s not perfect in all situations, and if you see yourself getting countered, and not getting in damage/denials, switch to something else.
Practice ricochets endlessly. That’s most of what separates the Junkrats who are great from the Junkrats who are adequate.
And learn to mine-jump correctly. I routinely encounter people with hundreds of hours in Junkrat who somehow still haven’t figured that they can get to more places by jumping over the mine and then detonating, as opposed to just walking over it and detonating. You should be able to leave the final defender’s spawn on King’s Row and mine-jump yourself up to the little sniper tunnel/shelf on the left side as you’re leaving.