Like hacking your Winston/Orisa?
… what? Why on earth would they have to do that? Does she not “LOOK” tanky enough for you?
I’m not endorsing reworking her to tank, or support, mind you. But that just sounds silly.
What makes you think she wouldn’t be able to do that anymore? It all depends on how, not if.
I mean, knowing OW, they would probably butcher her, but you get the idea.
Anyway, I would love to see Echo, Sombra, Sym, maybe even Torb as supports, and Bastion, Mei as tanks. Some people say that Doomfist could work well too.
Bam, balanced hero roster.
Tech-Support Sombra’s ult voiceline: “HAVE YOU TRIED TURNING IT OFF AND ON AGAIN??”
I want Sombra to be viable,but supports having to have a healing ability just makes them…boring. That’s not to say they can’t be fun,they can definitely be that but not for longer periods of time. In my case at least.
Either way,if Blizz changes Hack’s whole functionality then I HOPE TO JEFF that they also make changes to Doomfun™ and Overmobile Bakugan™.
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imagine your team’s tanks are both down and mercy flies in to rezz one and then, knowing how long that cooldown is, sombra hacks her team’s mercy to remove (or cut in half) the cooldown of rez so she gets it back way faster.
going with that, hack’s cooldown would obviously need to be nerfed. itll stay the same whe hacking enemies and health packs, but hacking allies would just be a longer cooldown. id say like 10 seconds or so
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Does she look like a tank to you???
Are you being serious, her hitbox is so skinny they don’t even want to give her 50hp as a plus. A tank is supposed to tank with his body and shields. Having her in role queue means your team is gonna get deleted, because she cannot tank.
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I’m a support main, you know how much time I have to spend pumping heal into my mates, so they don’t die?
Sombra just can’t leave for 30-40 seconds without loosing too much heal uptime
You would need a way to ensure that she can heal while she is absent
But we all know that ow devs are locking the supports behind the healer mentality, if he doesn’t heal, he can’t support, that’s it for them.
Well, I had an Idea where she could create hologram of her last hacked healtpack, and turned her passive into making your hacked targets/healthpacks also heal your teammates in aoe.
So basically, Sombra would play almost exactly same as before, except she would need to place this healthpack while in stealth before scouting on her own.
Now, I am not saying this is a great design idea, but making her playstyle the same is definitely possible, you just need to find smart enough people to design reworks that stick to playstyle.
You entirely missed my point and I think you missed it on purpose. No character in this game has to look like ANYTHING but the way the designer intended. That’s just asinine. Baptiste doesn’t “LOOK” like a support. Neither does Lucio. By that logic, Sym doesn’t even “look” like a DPS. They don’t want to give her more HP because she literally doesn’t need it.
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Having a stationery healthpack just doesn’t work.
Either you make it low consistent aoe heal, for long time, which has to be low (because it can’t be destroyed) or burst heal in intervalls which is just crap, because timing is important.
Nope Sombras as a Support would be horrendously bad.
Healing needs to be reactive, not only passive.
To be completely fair, Lucio’s healing isn’t all that reactive either, yeah he can burst every couple seconds but it’s cd is rather big for a healing ability, and yet it works because he can be paired with another support.
I probably should’ve mentioned that the hologram would also proc the passive, my bad. Nothing stops sombra from repositioning healthpack where it matters after a delay so…
You have to split your attention as Sombra, you can’t play support and flanker at the same time
If Sombra can still flank, she would need to keep her damage, which won’t fit the support category
Lucio is mobile and amp it up is reactive.
Zen is questionable but he is a special case anyways.
So Zen special case is okay but Sombra special case is not? Well okay.
I mean, I don’t play Sombra that much so my ideas can be completely horrible, but man, if they don’t want to do 1-3-2, then something must be done about category discrepancies. Sombrie and Symmie seem like obvious choices. Unless you wanna make Soldier a healer, which even sounds evil.
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Fix the support roster.
Mercy is an appendix, she is more or less viable, but not really engaging and she needs more
Moira needs her effort to output ratio fixed, an increase in skill ceiling, maybe skill floor
Bap needs a good look too. He is a bit more complicated as a swiss army knife.
Brig, Zen, Lucio, Ana are all fine.
Zen maybe needs something, he is balanced, but he is easily taken out (especially by Hammond and DF, which both completely shut him down, even more than Tracer)
Absolutely not.
Stop being so obsessed with reworking them to something they’re def not anymore. They already reworked them into dps once for a good reason, there’s no need to make them support twice.
It’s not gonna happen. They’re gonna be dps either you like it or not.
I dont get why it’s so hard to understand that this would be waste of time too.
Creating nonesense threads with the word rework is just stupid, no offense. Lot of you gonna hate me for saying this but idc. And with corona going on it’s just rather childish to ask/suggest such big & nonesense things like this atm.
At this point I just consider rework threads as a spam. Sorry.
how are you going to say zen is fine and then in the next sentence say he needs something? and then in the next breath you say hes balanced? which is it?
moira is fine as is, dont touch her.
So first off, balance between roles is a stupid idea and you guys need to get over that.
Secondly, supports that don’t heal directly aren’t viable anymore because of role queue unless they just give out ludicrous amounts of extra health. Health packs are not enough to keep a team going since they are placed away from fights.
A hero can be balanced but not be viable because of the circumstances
The Sombra buff could already help him out
Moiras effort to output ratio is broken. She is an ok state, but their isn’t much to her kit. Many Moiras main already said they would like to see an increase in her skill ceiling
I hate role queue with a passion, and I still think the worst design decision Blizzard ever made towards Overwatch was backing off from the philosophy that “support do not mean healer”. IMO, Sombra as is should had been a support from the start to endorse that motto and make it clear from the start that she was not supposed to be another flavor of Tracer.
Sym 2.0 was a great support unit, but some people simply refused to acknowledge any support ability that don’t come with free healing.
Shield Gen was preemptive healing, and extended the durability of high mobile flankers because they didn’t had to move towards a health pack to come back for round 2, just hide for 2 seconds and the shields would regen. You Tracer would escape with 90 HP, and come back at 165 HP, which was still more health that she would have without Shield Gen.
Her strong zone control also gave her team peace of mind because she always had a safe haven that they could retreat into, or that would prevent pesky flankers from having free reign on your backline.
I miss my queen.
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