I think Moira needs a rework similar to Sombra

Her gameplay is incredibly fun but I think the frustration many have is similar to the frustration of old Sombra. In that she feels very risk free because of her fade. What makes her strong in this current version of OW2 is her survivability which is why I think Kiriko and Lucio are also pretty strong. However where Kiriko lacks the need for game sense with her tp is made up for with the requirement for mechanical skill which is why I think people find her less frustration. Lucio needs both but also has a very high skill ceiling.

I think Moira kinda needs easy aim in order to function. So the next step is to rework her movement to require more skill similar to lucio or mercy. Not sure how this can be done though? But I think if her movement required more thought or input then people could look past the aim requirements/free dmg. Not saying people would be 100% ok with her, many still complain about Sombra. But I think it would be a more healthy direction for the hero and the overall game.

Not really sure what you mean by this…it’s not like you can’t have a leech/resource gain on a hit scan or projectile (you could even increase her dmg/healing output in those cases)

Movement is def something you could change…but really with her they can target just about anything….cause the whole kit is lacking skill expression (the core issue that you’re touching on)

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Moira is fine. I really don’t think she needs a rework or has gameplay loop that is frustrating enough to warrant a rework.

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This kinda deflates the argument that she needs a rework. Reworks are more for when a character’s kit isn’t living up to the standards set by the devs, and there’s nothing really wrong with Moira’s gameplay loop.

Well when Moira has passive invisibility and silent footsteps, we can talk about reworking her mobility to be like Sombra’s

They’re also done cause many find it incredibly frustrating and/or unfun to play against……and objectively speaking when it comes to a specific hero…there are usually way more of those voices

You can’t just look at things from the perspective of the people that only play the 1 hero….theyre almost never going to be in favor of change….and they obviously find the hero fun or they wouldn’t be playing it

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This is part of what the devs use for their standards, it’s basic game design.

I’m Ow2 players are wildly out of position compared to OW1 players. She is simply punishing bad plays. Roadhog used to fill this niche until they removed his one shot.