It takes forever to charge and isn’t even that great. They should either make it charge faster or buff it’s strength. More tank hp might be ok? Or maybe faster charge during copy. As it is now her ult is just trash.
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Honestly, I always get melted down when I copy a tank so now I only do DPS and sometimes support.
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They should revert the original ult price increase they gave her in ow1
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Love how her ult was great in OW1. In OW2 it’s just gives you a bit more time on the field before going back to spawn calls you.
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give her maybe 75% max tank health instead of 300 or whatever it’s capped at now. Or faster charge.
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honestly since OW2 launched I don’t think i’ve seen a single echo pop off with their ult outside of tiktok
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Tank health should be open queue HP instead of 300.
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I wouldn’t restore the nerf to the duplicate tank’s health, or we’d again have a situation where Echo makes an easy win with a double tank on every ult push. the same imbalances that we saw in open queue before season 3 would change the health of the tanks.
I think it’s more interesting instead to allow echo a buff to the recharge of cooldowns of skills, like what happens inside kiriko’s ultimate. I mean ONLY cooldowns, but NOT attack speed or movement speed. however (and this is absolutely important), this cooldown speed shouldn’t be accelerated further when boosted by kiriko ult (just like the inability to stack damage boost between mercy boost and ana ult)
in my opinion it is definitely worth giving her this type of buff instead of acting on her health, considering that she is a hero who on principle destabilizes her gameplay by changing pace in an instant. we must not forget that this hero must be learned last precisely because you must first know a minimum of the rest of the heroes, and this can be one of the main reasons for not choosing she.
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Pointless Ult imo
I would love that actually since it’s a survivability buff for copying tanks. Faster bubbles for Zarya as an example 
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I’ve been playing quite a lot of Echo recently and I got two big Rammatra annihilations, that’s it. normally you get one kill at best with it lmao
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Hear me out…
what if she didn’t announce when using it
and also she wasn’t glowing blue, but the standard hero and you couldn’t tell if it was Echo or the real person
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I think it’s fine, it’s a near instant transition with tons of perks. Gives her a second life, recovers HP if the remaining HP is above her previous HP and all that. Plus it also locks your target from swapping hero’s while active.
Echo herself is also a very strong hero with the beam of death and her sticky bomb spam from the sky. Now she suffers a bit from the OP nature of Hitscan right now but she is still strong hero. If she had a better ult, she’d need nerfs to her normal kit.
Also look it’s not much different than most other DPS hero ults, at least the good ones. Things like Dragon Blade or Tac Viser are pretty garbage on their own. Give them a pocket healer or Nano and it becomes capable of wiping out teams.
Echo is no different, if you communicate your Ult with your team and get help from your support/tanks she can get insane value out of her transformation. Far as I know you can still get two or more Ults off in one transform as Echo with hero’s like Rein or Dva.
An ult that at bare minimum gives you HP and such of another hero is good, one that gives you another hero’s ult one or more times in that period is obviously strong.
People tend to disregard the safety of ultimates. Echo’s ult is extremely safe. And thats big deal. A lot of DPS ults have better raw power but are also instant-death buttons when they fail (the more balanced ones anyway).
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Personally I would like to just have more time. Nothing else is really needed.
That would greatly help echo players be more creative, whenever it be a backup support or a tank player to help a new tank player that don’t know how space works or a just shielding the squishies to move up.
Another reason for more time is by the time I get ult on some characters, she transform back.
Though there is a problem of the spaghetti code of locking the enemy from switching.
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It’s just silly sojourn gets overclock which is low risk and high reward that she gets much faster than echo will get dupe
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Yes. I feel like it needs to charge faster, not a lot though and then once you’re in ult, like 3 to 5 more secs would help.
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It’s still one of the strongest dps ults in the game.
I disagree. It can be good sometimes but for how long it takes to charge it’s pretty bad imo.
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I’m an echo main and can only do so playing reaper or junk. Basically the “press q” ultimates lol.
Dva bomb is easy too. But other than those, I agree. I strugggggle.