So long as they did reduce poverty crime rates and unemployment and do bring proper housing. I see them as a necessary evil in the world. Humanity has had thousands upon thousands of years to get together and fix poverty, war and create order. And we have failed on every level, and here comes vishkar with a way to abolish poverty globally, create equal oppurtunites for everyone and end wars aswell A’s finally bring some order
They honestly aren’t my first choice in terms of who can make the world better but we have failed so much that we gotta do something, and their the best chance that we would have
So in the lore, I gotta side with sym and vishkar on this one, sorry lucio
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Man DrFate you’ve changed.
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cough cough Marxism cough cough
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“For siding with one that creates chaos.”
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UUhh vishkar is the embodiment of order, that’s kinda their thing
Not really… They’re like…working with Talon and all…(sweats)
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I dunno, I see there’s a lot of good of turning a hovel into a livable place. But is that really Vishkar’s goal? Do they plan to take care of the places they transform and stuff?
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I stand with lucio, he shall burn the evil that is vishkar to the ground!
Hueh…hueh…hueh…
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I mean look at utopia the city they made. It’s praised as a perfect city, all their problems such as poverty, crime etc vanished with the help of vishkar
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It’s marketed as the perfect city, praised is another thing entirely.
Also they kinda work for talon and symmetra is ignorant of this and being used so…
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I mean you could say that about anything that is praised
Also lucio is so narrow minded and looks at the world through a black and white lense
He is the embodiment of the approach we have had towards humanity for thousands of years
And it hasn’t worked
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I stand with Reaper. If you cannot get your way, join a terrorist organization and kill anyone in your way. 
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I stand with Gabriel not reaper
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No i couldn’t, praise is by the people, marketing is by them themselves.
Also how did they wipe out evil, wouldn’t they be the evil themselves since they’re working for talon?
Poverty is an evil tha has plagued humanity since the dawn of civilization. Why do we get to have the luxury of playing an online game and coming home to nice houses and having good schools and communities while kids in India or Africa die from malnourishment, unemployment of their parents, unsafe communities etc
Vishkar can make that go away
It’s about time it does
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At what cost, that is the question, talon is the same organization that made widowmaker kill her husband and now uses her as a brainwashed minion, how do you know if that is vishkar’s intention or if it’s only their exterior?
It can also be a matter of trading freedom for luxury.
I think the means justifies the ends to an extent
The most we have seen vishkar do was use the people of rio for cheap labour and blow up a building. Both terrible, but if it brings the globe together, so be it