He’s just too complex as a hero to expect people that can actually play him well. Some miss healing grenades, some focus too much on burst rifle, some can’t pick right moment for field, some are just useless at everything.
Even Ana has less requirements to be useful on regular basis.
I forget he is a healer. I have thanked people for solo healing and they are like, “um???”
i understand this very well when i play baptiste i try to look at allies health to decide whether to heal or shoot
I find the hero useless. He is super easy to kill and I feel that Ana does a better job
I love it when a man tells me to get in here
That’s 70% of the roster yet here we are
Is that any different from the ‘dps Moira’s?’
^ This and in general his healing is very underwhelming and needs a buff of some sort. Tanking with a solo baptiste in QP is just not worth. He does that little IMO.
Ana is just better in general so… yes. 
The moment people start using him as an OFF healer, it will work better.
And yeah, I hate having “insert new hero name” that is bad/clueless in my team. Nothing special with Bappy.
his nades need to be like ana’s darts and go through people who are fully healed, Trying to heal a team that is close together is over the top, running around more to get the angles is crap for the nades.
On the whole, his kit is really nice to use apart from the long shift cd, I think it needs to be reduced 2 seconds.
he is my go to now if moria is taken.
i’d pick zenyatta over baps in 100% cases.
Well, I disagree, I’ve come to really like having him on my team. But, then I do play a lot of Orisa, so…
Orisa and Baptiste are a ridiculous combo. Orisa + Amp matrix is beautiful.
They already do. It’s just if they’re taking consistent damage, they don’t. Even just a sliver of health gone, the nades won’t go through. Not to mention his nades splash healing is a bit garbo as well.
I really don’t like having a Zenyatta in my team.
He’s just too complex as a hero to expect people that can actually play him well. Some miss right clicks, some focus too much on DPS’ing and don’t heal at all, some can’t pick right moment for Transcendence, some are just useless at everything. /s
You can do this for so many heros o-o People misuse cooldowns, people can’t aim well [common in gold] people don’t know when to ult, etc.
Honestly, be grateful for having a healer at all. Would you rather have that Baptiste be a soldier instead?
you actually can’t. Chances to get useless zenyatta are dramatically lower than useless baptiste.
His nades are easier to land than ana’s shots.
Idk what you are even talking about.
Reluctantly, I agree. With Zen you have chance to kill your attacker. But if you dive Bappy and his healing brust is on cooldown you won. He can burn his field but still his pew pew pew is bit too low.
Also Field dies really fast and makes your team cramped in one place with relatievley low health.
Also his exoboots dont provide him fast escape options…
At least Ana can stun her opponent or use nade to gain half health. Bappy can just stand under lamp.
i feel like everyone is still getting used to bap and how he plays, where’s he’s good and where he’s not. it might be a bit early to say, but i feel he is very strong in bunker comps on a lot of first point hybrid and some 2cp points.
he feels like there’s better options outside of that though. then again, everyone is still learning.
I think some of the problem stem from people think that baptiste is an “Off healer” which he is not and play him as a dps instead of a healer.
Dps bap is worse than dps moira imho.